Interesting comment re Whats App Graham White, as I was thinking of joining.
I still prefer this list tbh, but content has, understandably, become pretty minimalist, so I dip into the FB group, but that only seems to be the same 10/15 people commenting. I don’t post much in comparison to yesteryear (thank god for that I hear you cry) - DRB, me and Guy used to post irregularly regularly to each other and I think a bit of the list went with them :-( Guy in particular was great at starting all manner of spurious debate, often unknowingly, and of course he created our list off-shoot cycling group. As for now, I actually don’t know how I feel about the good ship LUFC. It’s a tipping point moment - Bielsa has worked miracles, the football and approach has been amazing, but the players he’s indoctrinated are getting old/are not good enough, Bielsa’s stubbornness appears legendary (even when wrong), and I genuinely don’t know whether our naive brand of football can take us further - we desperately need Bielsa.2! Will he promote our young uns, are they going to be good enough, if we survive for another season will we become a feeder club again as it becomes clear we can’t compete with the top 6 without huge injections of cash. Or is it all as straight-forward as hitting the back of the f***ing net a bit more often ;-) Because if we did that, none of the above would matter! Maybe? Sent from my iPad > On 23 Sep 2021, at 03:21, Ian Murray <[email protected]> wrote: > > You can mute it mate. I do. I just dip in when I want. > > I > > ________________________________ > From: Leedslist <[email protected]> on behalf of Graham White via > Leedslist <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, 22 September 2021 8:43 PM > To: Leeds List 2010 <[email protected]>; James A. Lundon @ Yahoo! > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [LU] The healthy of this list - some musings! > > I was on the WhatsApp group for while but had to come off as the sheer volume > of messages was drowning out everything else. > > Cheers > > Graham White > -------------------- > > On Thursday, 16 September 2021, 18:08:37 CEST, James A. Lundon @ Yahoo! > via Leedslist <[email protected]> wrote: > > The era of the pure e-mailing list is almost gone! I am still on a lot of > old-style mailing lists so know better than many. The only one that is going > as strong as ever is something called RISKS [ACM FORUM ON RISKS TO THE PUBLIC > IN COMPUTERS AND RELATED SYSTEMS (comp.risks) - Peter G. Neumann, founder and > still moderator]. This very excellent RISKS mailing list has been going > since 1989 or 1990 and has its own very dedicated membership etc. > > We have been on the go since mid-June 1992, which means we are in our 30th > year of continuous operation. This is a hugely impressive thing in and of > itself. I have almost everything that has been posted on the list during > that time, and everything from January 1993, when I first joined myself. At > least half the people on this list have been on it for over 25 years or more. > We are not unlike RISKS in many ways but it's how we deal with it, will > decide whether we continue as we are or not. > > The new WhatsApp group is great - which I'm trying to archive too - but it > should never replace this mailing list. Saying all that, the mailing list is > only as good as the people who contribute to it, which really is just two or > three people on a consistent basis. Dave N. and Rich W. are keeping it fed > almost single-handedly with their regular and consistently insightful & > high-quality match reports. The more people who contribute to the list, the > healthier it will be. > > I do see a few problems with the current Leedslist mailing list, one is the > fact that it is text-based when time & tide have moved towards a more > web-centric world (see below), another is the unknowing but very annoying > habit of some posters to reply to (digest) posts including the entire > contents of the (digest) posts they are replying to. There is little or > nothing that the mailing list administrators [John Betty and myself] can do > about that latter annoyance. It has turned a few people off the list but we > don't want to go down the road of moderating all contributions etc. > > Remember, when the mailing list was first set up it was at a > different-almost-pre-web time when many of us were not able to go to games, > nor to look at them live on telly. The latter is pretty much no longer the > case. There are many other e-forums for fans to contribute to than before > too: Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, WACCOE-like forums, personal blogs etc. > We live in an increasingly segmented world where we can consume our media in > almost unique ways, this e-mailing list still being an almost-communal > experience. > > We live in a much more "immediate" world than ever before too, which suits > the WhatsApp model, while many of us are more reflective, which suits the > e-mailing list model. However, for the list to survive, the quantity, but > especially the quality, of the contributions must stay high, otherwise, we > will continue to die very slowly. > > Who else is willing to man that gap of keeping the signal-to-noise ratio > high? Let's be having ya, Kevin Lewis and your always-excellent musings, or > anything else that comes into that weird and wonderful mind of yours, KofT! > > James. > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
