Love that John.
 Don’t pull your punches mate. 

Best regards,Scott. 

> On 3 Oct 2022, at 12:08, John Lee via Leedslist <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Pretty accurate assessment - it was definitely up there in terms of worst 
> games (both sides included) I’ve seen in many a year. Marsch now knows how 
> teams who are battling will play at Elland Rd - diving, wasting time, nagging 
> the ref etc. We have to try and play some football! The continual playing it 
> across the backline only for Cooper/Meslier to hoof it long underscores our 
> lack of creativity playing from the back. Much as Llorente has been a 
> defensive liability of late, he breaks forward well, as does Struijk if at 
> centre back. That is a problem that needs working on. 
> 
> I absolve none of the players for sinking down to Villa’s depths yesterday - 
> apart from maybe Bamford who we desperately need to be involved from the 
> start of games. The ref was poor, but we aided and abetted our own demise. 
> Ditto the fans, who’s constant singing of ‘Tyrone Mings - f***ing sh*t’ must 
> have been music to their ears! 
> 
> Sinisterra looked the only likely one to break the deadlock, so to see him 
> fall foul of a nit-picking referee like that was infuriating, but just about 
> summarised the afternoon.
> 
> We got a point when we may have got beaten so that was good.
> 
> Finally, and I know this will not be a universally held view, but the time 
> for a player to be sacrificed against Villa has come - by sacrificed I mean 
> they should cripple McGinn! That f***er is going to end someone’s career 
> before long, and we need to get our retaliation in first. I don’t mean just 
> foul him either - broken leg/legs - he’s a twat who needs sorting out! 
> 
> Love, peace and United :-) 
> 
> 
>> On 3 Oct 2022, at 10:27, nattan--- via Leedslist <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Well you can add Villa to Everton and Wolves to the list of teams who , if 
>> they were playing in my garden I would draw the curtains rather than watch.
>> This was a real game of two halves and both were terrible in different ways.
>> Villa showed in the first minute what their game plan was, waste time, take 
>> minutes out of the match, dive, whinge , play act and get at the ref.  First 
>> free kick of the game and one of theirs kicks the ball from the half way 
>> line to behind our goal after the whistle has blown, the inept ref has a 
>> quiet word, no card. Later Pantomime villain ( pun intended) Mings, picks 
>> the ball up to take a free kick then leaves it , then goes back to it , all 
>> just time wasting and killing the game. Add the fact that they rolled around 
>> after every tackle and they were constantly at the ref and you get the 
>> general impression that they were not here to play football. 
>> We did nothing to help ourselves in the main because we got involved in all 
>> the petty squabbles and mini vendettas, rather than playing football 
>> When we did play, Sinisterra looked a real handful and Roca pulled the 
>> strings. Having said that  a thunderbolt by the otherwise poor Rodrigo that 
>> flew just wide and a cross into the 6 yd box that he just failed to get on 
>> the end of was all we had to show for a turgid first half.  Villa had 2 or 3 
>> breakaways saved / smothered by Mes.
>> On the concourse at half time I heard one lad say " that's the worst game I 
>> have ever seen" . I am sure I have seen worse but it was dire.
>> Second half and all to play for till stupidity by Sini cost us the chance of 
>> 3 points. Having seen it on TV it was a ridiculous thing to do and many refs 
>> would give a yellow,  though more would have given a warning rather than a 
>> second yellow however ' wrong' that may be.  So down to 10 and suddenly 
>> Villa woke up and wanted to take things quickly and get on with the game. As 
>> it wore on it was almost the old kids game, attack v defence, and thankfully 
>> with some resolute defending, profligate finishing, good saves and the help 
>> of the woodwork, we held on and almost nicked a goal at the death when 
>> Bamford,  looking good when he came on, nearly laid on a finish for Klich. 
>> It was relief and some cheers at the end though mainly drowned out by boos 
>> and insults at the ref. An awful game
>> A special word for the incompetent referee.  All second half my mate said " 
>> this must be one of those new refs who haven't a clue " I agreed saying I 
>> had heard that lots of refs retired at the end of last season  and the Prem 
>> had new , even less able referees.  Imagine my surprise then to see it was 
>> not some unknown newbie making his debut and alternating between having no 
>> clue /  no control and making himself the centre of attention,  but in fact 
>> Stuart Attwell  a seasoned ref at this level - a dreadful performance from 
>> start to finish 
>> So after waiting a month to get back to watching us we had to put up with 
>> that dross. As someone,  a bit unfairly,  said on the bus " that was 
>> shocking and nothing like  the brilliant Bielsaball " . I say a bit unfair 
>> because the lack of spectacle and entertainment in this game was not really 
>> our fault, but it was a hard watch. 
>> Dave 
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