Every commentator has nothing but praise?? Incontrovertibly not true.
> On 13 Nov 2022, at 11:50, Michael Benjamin <[email protected]> wrote: > > John, > I think a lot put themselves up a tree and haven't the balls to admit it and > climb down > Every commentator has nothing but praise > > > Get Outlook for Android > From: Leedslist <[email protected]> on behalf of John Lee via > Leedslist <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2022 1:24:41 PM > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [LU] Spuds > > I don’t think most people who see Marsch’s tactics as hopeless are saying > that because he’s American, it’s because his tactics are naive. And most > Leeds fans I know arn’t even dreaming about a Bielsa return - that period is > done and dusted! > > It is inevitable that Marsch will go this season - wrong man, wrong job, so > the ‘process’ will need to be followed. We have some decent players who, with > the right management, could do much better than is currently the case. A > manager who brings on Luke Ayling to shore up the defence demonstrates all > too clearly his limitations! > > Of course if VAR had spotted the Meslier foul things would have been > different, but our defending is so tactically naive who would have bet on > getting some points even if that goal had been disallowed? > > Groundhog Day for the next 12 months? Hopefully not! > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > On 13 Nov 2022, at 10:52, seanscribe--- via Leedslist > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Gotta say I am so sick of the anti-American "bring back Bielsa" bullshit on > > this list. It's finally time to say something. Bielsa was taking us down. > > He was an incredible manager for a mid-level Championship team because he > > had the ability to (a) improve the team's professionalism and attitude (b) > > improve their fitness to almost superhuman levels (at some cost to the > > players' long-term health) and (c) play with tactics that Championship > > managers weren't used to facing. But that only worked to a lesser degree in > > the Premier League, where (a) everyone is super-professional, (b) everyone > > is super-fit and (c) the managers are the best in the world (and so are the > > players). By last season the players were done and we were dropping like a > > stone back towards the Championship, getting absolutely hammered every > > week. Marsch rescued us. It wasn't pretty, but it worked. > > The reason Spurs scored one more goal than us yesterday is that their first > > goal was the result of two blatant fouls: one by the goalscorer Harry Kane > > pushing Tyler Adams (in much the same way that Bamford did against Arsenal, > > except that Bamford was penalized and Kane wasn't); and the second on > > Meslier, who was pushed into the back of his net and then sat upon, > > preventing him from being in position to actually save Kane's shot. I would > > argue that this was classic "big six refereeing," in which the Premier > > League feels invested in ensuring that the six clubs around which it bases > > its global marketing remain competitive for the top spots in the league > > throughout the season. Kane was also helped by a long tradition in the > > Premier League of granting the England captain more leeway than other > > players (going back at least to Alan Shearer kicking opponents in the head > > and getting away with it). Oh, and Spurs' fourth goal came from a throw-in > > given to them when the ball clearly came off the leg of a Spurs player. > > All the anti-Americans said Marsch's football wouldn't score goals. We've > > outscored our opponents 9-8 in the last three games. It wouldn't win games, > > they said. We've won two of our last three and were in position to win the > > third with fewer than ten minutes to go. It wouldn't be exciting, they > > said. If you haven't found the last three games exciting, maybe you should > > take up skydiving instead. > > Yes, our defence is a problem. I would argue a major factor behind that is > > that Bielsa's hand-picked left back, Junior Firpo, is crap. Marsch realizes > > this and doesn't play him, which, because we are so weak in that position, > > means we have to play arguably our best centre-half as left back. Until the > > club spend some money on very good defenders, we're probably going to > > continue to suffer results like yesterday on a regular or semi-regular > > basis. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Greg Adams <[email protected]> > > To: Leeds List <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sat, Nov 12, 2022 12:14 pm > > Subject: [LU] Spuds > > > > Well, that was great. We had a big chance of getting something today, > > but stupid, naive defending gifted the spuds enough chances which they > > finally took. > > > > We were second best, but some good play by individuals gave us a > > chance. Spurs were there for the taking, but no team can defend like > > that against any PL team, let alone a so-called top six one. This team > > does not know how to defend. The first two goals were the result of > > sloppy play by us. I did not see the third and fourth. > > > > It's time to let the clown go. His 'tactics' are a joke. There are > > enough decent players in the squad for us to be much better than this. > > Just look at how many times there are three Leeds players pressing one > > opponent and still do not win the ball or stop the player from playing > > the ball out. It's already been pointed out by many on this list that > > we are easy to attack out wide,yet we persist with two midfielders - one > > of whom is useless defensively and the other is permanently in headless > > chicken mode. > > > > Ah, fuck it. I'm too pissed off. I want this guy and his penisball > > out. Hopefully we can find someone who at least has a clue of how to > > manage in a top rated league. > > > > Bring back Bielsa. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leedslist mailing list > > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > > > Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! > > _______________________________________________ > > Leedslist mailing list > > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > > > Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! > > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
