On Jul 18, 2006, at 2:36 PM, Scratchinshed wrote:

He didn't say that. He said very clearly that the blood is on the hands of the suicide bombers (and I'll add - on the hands of their backers and trainers).
I could add the blood is also on the hands of those that have started all this hatred, namely those who invaded a muslim country and fuelling hatred that was already present. where should we stop the blaming? at what point? at 911?

I don't think that there is much doubt that if the bombings had not taken place then this shooting would not have taken place. It might also be argued that those who you wish to hold as being "responsible" perhaps had the "responsibility" to open fire in those circumstances however tragic and however mistaken the action turned out to be (with your PhD in hindsight). What would you be saying right now if it had turned out that he WAS in fact a suicide bomber and he had detonated a device and later you found out that the police
what if what if.. not interesting. I agree, once again, I agree that it was a difficult situation, almost impossible. fact is that SOMEONE killed SOMEONE innocent and nobody is getting any punishment here. that is a problem no? this sets precedence, yes or no?

is this the kind of precedence you like to set? let the gov. shot at will and then lets see if they were right. if you want to stop this kind of attitude you need to trial and convict. surely?


COULD have stopped him.
You also use the term "murder" in a highly emotive way, I suspect deliberately.
moi? where did I write murder?

Murder is a legal term and it is far from clear that this victim was murdered. He was shot and killed in appalling circumstances in an appalling situation and at a time of massive tensions- ALL of which are the direct responsibility (and intentions) of the bombers themselves.
Ok, lets play with terms, love it. was he assassinated? slaughtered? that sound like it, 7 bullets in the head. is slaughtered a valid legal term? you re trying to dismissing responsibility due to all the circumstances at the time, I disagree. when someone is murdered/killed/slaughtered/assassinated and it was wrong, surely someone should be convicted.

that is my entire point is: theres no excuse for killing someone by "accident" or by tension or whatever.


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oh alright then :-)


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