I am geniunely seeking enlightnment but as with everything there is a lot of stuff flying around that is far from an objective assessment and I am trying to make sense of it all. To be honest if I had the time at work etc... I would have stayed on the list years ago and been reasonably upto date. I know people have spent a lot of their personal time and energy getting involved and I think that is fantastic. I would love a supporters trust backed takeover.
You seem defensive about the questions I have asked. I never disagreed with you I simply asked more questions trying to understand a little more In my limited experience of CVAs buy outs etc... Bates seems to be doing the best for Bates's Leeds United to clear the debts and start again, now whether that is for the best who knows but I would welcome a debt free clean slate come the start of the new season and my worry is that these chancers/ invisible serious investors/ well meaning anti Bates crew could scupper that and we start the new season with kids and crrently contrracted players and end up going down again. I dont support bates, morris, krasner, stubbs, revie etc I want the best for the club and I am yet to be convinced that running Bates out of town is the best option >From: "vanillafudge LUFC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: vanillafudge LUFC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "leedslist" <[email protected]> >Subject: [LU] Divine Knowledge >Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 14:31:07 +0100 > >----- Original Message ----- > > I am not on of the inner sanctum on here that seem to know everything > > about everything hence my email enlighten me! > >I'm not sure what your complaint really is here. When people ARE trying to >elighten you then you appear to simply reject it (so why should they bother >?). >People don't "know" things as a sort of divine right or some mystical or >privileged process. It comes as a result of hard work and dedication and >getting themselves involved. How are you involved ? Are you a member of the >supporters Trust ? You can join up on-line very easily. www.lufctrust.org. >Let me know if you have any problems. Get yourself involved and I can >almost >guarantee that somehow you will end up knowing more than you do now (but it >won't be an accident). > >I also suggest that you actually READ what has been written. Did you notice >the bit about Bates' promises not being delivered in full ? Why would those >who willingly sold the club to Bates and who received warm paise from Bates >at the time turn into "sworn enemies" as you say. Is it because they are >simply bad people ? Even then, why would bad people do this ? What >publicity >is David Richmond getting ? Or Helme ? Are you suggesting that there were >creditors to pay off that Bates did not know all about ? When did this >happen ? When he took over, or after he told us all (just after Cardiff) >that there were no more excuses and that nobody from the past could be >blamed any longer. >If "all" that Bates has done is to get in over his head then how is that >any >less a major fault with massive implications for our football club and how >is it anbodys fault other than his own ? If you "get in over your head" on >something and let everybody down in a very big way as a result, then whose >fault would it be ? > >There was a known and understood process for the football debts to decay >and >erode over the period up until next month. There were no surprises there. >The contingent liabilities were also known and understood. If somebody >fails >to manage a process which is understood, mapped out, and fully predictable >then is it fair to say that their management is a failure ? > >There are documents available to you from Companies House, from the Land >Registry, and from any of the clubs creditors. You could make phone calls >to >any number of people and ask questions or have discussions. You could have >meetings. All of these things would lead to greater knowledge. >Alternatively >you might not want to bother with any of these things but that does not >give >whatever you wish to say about it equal weight with those people who do put >in this effort. >You are of course free to say whatever you wish but, like it or not, THEY >will KNOW more than you about it. You can either find these things out for >yourself or listen to and rely on what other people are telling you. It is >your choice. > > > >_______________________________________________ >the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators >accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. >Leedslist mailing list >[email protected] >http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >The Leeds List - "where never is heard a discouraging word..." _________________________________________________________________ Play your part in making history - Email Britain! http://www.emailbritain.co.uk/ _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. Leedslist mailing list [email protected] http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist The Leeds List - "where never is heard a discouraging word..."
