Please point out the contradiction. And to summarise, your logic is that even if there is more than 1 potential buyer, if the selling club wants to sell a player the price will therefore be lower than if they didnt want to sell the player.
You are also saying that Bates (of all people) would allow a buying club to pay less than market value for a player. Ie take the piss. One question, what will the price be (for Healy or whoever) if Fulham are prepared to pay £2m and Sunderland £2m? By your reasoning < £2m yes? Rhetorical question.. you dont work in sales or purchasing do you? > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:leedslist- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nigel Holcroft > Sent: 06 June 2007 18:33 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LU] Wage deferrals - Healy + who? > > It took you all that time just to come up with your usual bunch of > contradiction and misquotes? > > At least you came to the right conclusion, in mid tirade and you could > have > saved us all time by ending at that point, in explanation of your > opinion... > > I refer you to line eight, below and herby accept your one piece of > reasoned > logic as to why I and others seem not to know or relate to your > opinions. > > As for the rest, we'll see just what price we get, in comparison to > other > market activity on international strikers... > - > ----Original Message----- > From: Mark Humphries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 4:04 AM > To: 'Nigel Holcroft'; [email protected] > Subject: RE: [LU] Wage deferrals - Healy + who? > > Jesus man, are you saying some people list items on ebay not really > wanting > to sell them? > > Let me reiterate, if you have two bidders for an item they will bid > against > each other up to their limit, regardless of the whys and wherefores of > the > seller's position. > > The 'intrinsic value' of Healy as a footballer is his goalscoring > ability, > the reason(s) Leeds want/have to sell him are irrelevant to that > 'value'. > As every idiot knows, Healy was going to be sold anyway, so the 'we > might > not sell him' argument was never there. > > So, basically, your argument that Bates saying he refused to defer his > wages > has ANY impact on his eventual sale price, as there are at least 2 > interested parties, is totally irrelevant. It is also total nonsense > in > terms of pure economics, you know, supply and demand and all that jazz. > > The actual price we sell him for involves many factors, Bates stating > he > isn't going to play for Leeds again aint one of them. > > Oh and the thing about 'backdoor' offers, what on earth makes you think > that > if that was going to happen it wouldn't happen anyway? See the Kewell > transfer for more info. > > And as a footnote to this Bates has also since been on record stating > his > sympathy for Healy and that he could never have been expected to play > international football then league 1 football. Maybe he said that in > the > same interview as he mentioned the deferral issue and maybe the > original > article I referred to chose to 'cleverly' edit his comments to make it > look > like an attack on Healy? > > I don't really know and don't really care, but I do know that it will > have > zero impact on Healy's price. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nigel > Holcroft > Sent: 05 June 2007 18:01 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LU] Wage deferrals - Healy + who? > > > > Where your opinions are concerned, I've come to expect very little in > the > way of reason.. > > And as for your, "ebay" analogy...I suggest you follow your own advice. > You'll find that there are many items of a similar nature being bid on > at > any given time. Many fetch widely varying prices while engaging the > same > group of bidders and why? because their intrinsic value is based on > many > factors not the least of which is there ease of availability and > whether the > owner wants rid (as you put it) versus someone who does not need to > sell but > is open to offers at the right price of above.. > > Bates' actions also opens the backdoor to player/agent negotiations to > only > agree to a certain club's offer regardless of who offers the highest > bid.. > > Whatever loyalty, or sympathy Healey may have had toward our plight > (not > common, in today's football I'll grant you) is now out of the window > and he > has been given every reason to actively help screw us over if the > opportunity arises. > > By the way, are you Bates in disguise? > > > > From: Mark Humphries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 10:24 AM > To: 'Nigel Holcroft'; [email protected] > Subject: RE: [LU] Wage deferrals - Healy + who? > > Duh! How much more reasoning do you need than if there are 2 competing > buyers then it doesn't matter a toss if the current owner wants rid. > > If that doesn't make sense to you can I suggest you check out this > marvellous website > > www.ebay.co.uk > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list > administrators > accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of > contributors. > Leedslist mailing list > [email protected] > http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > Join The Leeds United Supporters Trust at www.lufctrust.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list > administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions > of contributors. > Leedslist mailing list > [email protected] > http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > Join The Leeds United Supporters Trust at www.lufctrust.org _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. 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