Chris, you started the abuse, so don't give it if you can't take it. I think
you've spent far too much time sitting in aloof judgement of people you have
no empathy with, hence your blinkered views - plus you have a vested
interest in the appalling status quo.
Legalisation WOULD make drugs both cheaper and safer. Have you never been to
Amsterdam?
Experience is everything. Without it you have no true understanding of a
subject you're nominally an authority on. It's the difference between sex
and porn. You're in good company, as public life is riddled with
statistics-spewing "expert" fools.
Have you ever taken any drugs? If not, then all you're repeating is gossip.
You're a blowhard, nothing more.
Nigel.
On 31 May 2010 19:11, Chris Briggs <[email protected]> wrote:
> What a waste of time and effort that response was and to be honest it marks
> you down as a bit of a unintelligent wanker.
>
> Legalising the drugs would not stop the issues, it would not make them any
> more affordable, it would not make them less addictive. Anyone that can't
> really see this is obviously blinded by the light emitting from their own
> arsehole.
>
> As to making them legal is beyond my control as Magistrate, however, it is
> technically up to each and every citizen as they vote on those that have the
> powers to create and amend the laws.
>
> Experience of taking drugs is completely irrelevant to this in the same way
> that I don't need to be a fucking brain surgeon to realise that falling off
> my motorbike at high speed is going to hurt like fuck, or i don't have to
> beat my wife up to understand the effect of domestic violence on those
> concerned. Cause and effect old chap.
>
> Am I a fucking idiot, who gives a toss but at least I am capable of
> understanding the subject I commented on.
>
> And as for talking bollocks I will leave that to those that do it far
> better than I. Over to you I think.
>
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> On 2010-05-31 12:03:06 +0100 Nigel Barber <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > Chris, you're absolutely right, illegal drugs are causing huge amounts of
> > crime. So legalise them, you fucking idiot.
> >
> > Do you have any personal experience of using drugs yourself? If not, then
> > YOU are talking bollocks.
> >
> >
> > Nigel.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 30 May 2010 21:54, Chris Briggs <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> <snip> I think you'll find that the drug that causes by far the most
> havoc
> >> is perfectly legal. We should ban alcohol and legalise marijuana. Ever
> seen
> >> stoners fight? <snip>
> >>
> >> Soz Maggie, but that is bollocks.
> >>
> >> Illegal drugs, and alcohol (to a much, much lesser extent), are the
> direct
> >> cause on the level of criminal activity. Feeding a habit is responsible
> for
> >> Assaults, burglary, theft, shoplifting, vagrancy, begging, robbery as
> well
> >> as a multitude of Pubic Order offences. I am not saying that alcohol
> does
> >> not cause problems as it clearly does but not to the extent of illegal
> >> drugs.
> >>
> >> Most folk convicted of drug offences are offered drug rehab and in the
> case
> >> of heroin addition a prescribed substitute, in these cases the offender
> (as
> >> they are now classed due to the crime) are monitored by Probation and
> have
> >> to attend regular drug testing. However, these things only ever work if
> the
> >> offender wishes to give up the drugs and in the majority of cases they
> >> don't.
> >>
> >> Making drugs legal would only increase the levels of criminal activity
> as
> >> folk currently taking drugs would still be offending and those that
> would
> >> take the newly legalised drugs would add to the tally. Drugs would still
> be
> >> as addictive and folk still need to feed the habit.
> >>
> >> Comparing the crime stats for Drugs versus Alcohol does not give the
> full
> >> picture. Alcohol production is quality controlled, has particular supply
> >> laws attached to it and (importantly for govt revenue purposes) taxed at
> >> production level and then via vat at the pub. In order to make drugs
> legal
> >> would then mean that it has to be the subject to the same processes,
> etc.
> >> This would then have a direct impact upon the quality and cost, yes the
> >> quality would increase, but then this can potentially cause problems in
> >> people that would take the same amount of a purer substance. Improving
> the
> >> quality would increase the costs, increasing the costs would lead to
> people
> >> taking things back underground, mixing in talc, etc and then knocking it
> >> out
> >> at a cheaper price.
> >>
> >> For those interested, when it comes to drug testing heroin spends much
> less
> >> time in the body than cannabis, approx 4 days compared to 3-4 months.
> >>
> >> But then that is my opinion, however, I do see the impact of these
> things
> >> on society in my work as a Magistrate where, as well as convicting and
> >> sentencing on these crimes I also get to spend time with various other
> >> agencies within the criminal justice systems. Last week I was at a Youth
> >> Offenders Institute (age 15 to 18) where 85% of the inmates were there
> as
> >> punishment for a crime where drugs were related.
> >>
> >> Right then what's on the telly.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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