I just use mine to hold the bit in place until tightening the collet, nothing is in the hole as the band rests on the cusp. Seem to hold up to heat very well and are easily replaced. https://jes-orthodontic.com/en/orthodontic-patient-supplies/intraoral-elastics-rubber-bands-bag-of-100.html?gclid=CMO4z7uFyMACFShp7AodhH4Aig
is only one site. Surely others ore competitively priced.max Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 10:23:15 -0400 From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Router "Extreme Extension" on sale. Thanks for the input, Max. I assume you put the band around the outside of the shank - adjusting its placement so that the bit is ~1/16" from bottomed out as pointed out by Radar Roger (RR). His technique of using a 1/2" grommet/o-ring has you dropping it down INTO the router's collet vs putting it around the shank. I am sure both work equally well. I've used the o-ring but will have to now try the ortho-band method if I can get some. How do the bands hold up to the heat that builds up on the bit during a day's work? Do they heat-fuse to the shank? Mac -----Original Message----- From: MAX LATHAM Sent: Sep 4, 2014 8:43 AM To: legacy Subject: RE: Router "Extreme Extension" on sale. Hi,For retaining the height of the router bit or stand off, if you wish, I've found the little bands used by folks with dental braces work just fine and each bit can have its own! And can be finely adjusted. Usually the orthodontist receptionist will give you a large bag and then the price IS right, too. Or con a kid out of a bag.max From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Router "Extreme Extension" on sale Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 10:20:39 +0100 Hi Guys When you put your cutter in make sure that you bottom the bit on the inside base of the XX and then bring it out about 1/32" to 1/16" that also reduces transmitted vibration. One trick that Bob at Router Tech suggested is to put a little rubber grommet in before the cutter, that works also. Another little point which happens to annoy me is how many of you folk seem to think there are such things as RPMs. There is no such thing it is simply Revolutions Per Minute. So whether it is one RPM or or thousands of the little beggars they are just good old simple RPM. I feel better now because I see many American turners in You Tube videos and my Australian mate adulterating the English language, see below. Regards Radar Roger From: CURTIS GEORGE Sent: Thursday, September 4, 2014 9:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Router "Extreme Extension" on sale Hello and good morning everyone. If I may, there is one more thing that should be thrown into the pot, (so to speak.) When chucking up any router bit (extension or not) you need to make sure that the bit is seated in the collect, I know that I played it un-safe in the past trying to get the most depth out of a plunging cut by extending the bit to much, this can be dangerous . When setting the router bit you need to make sure that the bit is down inside the collect but not all the way down,there is a shanfer are the bottom of the bit (where the shaft and bit meet) that may get in the way of getting the good seating you need, If you seat/set, the bit and then raise the bit a slight about to make sure the shansfer is not interfering with the seat. "When Ive used my XX, IN the past,and if I get vibration, I just loosen the collect and play with the seating of the bit a little, then tighten it back down to remove slop, sometimes the playing with the seating of the bit or XX is all that is needed to remove the vibration. ( I agree that the speed needs to be looked at as well, Just trying to get a fuller view of a potential problem. thats all.) ;-) Have a good day,Everyone. C.A.G. Sorry my mistake I forgot to mention rpms I just know to slow the big ones down in fact I always start on the slowest speed of my router whatever bit I put in then work the speed up to what I think it needs and any bit over 2 inches i don't use the XX those big bits especially like 3inch dia is impossible to use with the XX its just too dangerous. And yes your right about checking run out on bits as well checking both for run out is a good idea Bill From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, 4 September 2014 11:24 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Router "Extreme Extension" on sale Bill, Thanks for the feedback. A question - really meant as a point of safety/info for those that may not know it: When you installed a "large diameter" bit into the Xtreme Xtension(XX) and got the vibrations - did you REMEMBER TO DIAL DOWN THE RPMs? If not, that - combined with the "extended" shaft and larger diameter of the bit - can all work together to create the vibration. I hear you as regards runout on the XX. Keep in mind too, that router bits have been known to be (or get) slightly less than perfect when it comes to runout/balance. So what I'm saying is the XX may not always be the culprit - it may be a combination of factors. So check everything if you have vibrations - to include ensuring you are not running the bit past the manufacturer's maximum recommended speed. At previous "Woodworking Shows", Woodline (one of the catalog/on-line company booths) used to give out a nice adhesive backed chart that had recommended max & min speeds listed for various router bits - based upon their size. Folks may find that chart helpful for bits that they have but don't know the brand. Next time you order from them (www.woodline.com) ask if they have any and if they'd include one in your order. G'day! Mac -----Original Message----- From: Bill Bulkeley Sent: Sep 3, 2014 7:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Router "Extreme Extension" on sale Great tool the Xtreme Xtension I use them I have 3 one in my router table router and one in each of my 2 mills . the only fault no, limitation might be the better word is that bits over 2 inches dia You can get vibration problems when you take heavy cuts but that is a very minor problem the Xtreme Xtension is for reach so by the time the bit is too big for it, its big enough on its own to reach I'd be buying one if I didn't already have 3.one point I find is they work so much better if you use a dial indicator and make sure they are running as true as possible when you install them in the router Bill From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Roger P Sent: Thursday, 4 September 2014 4:17 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Router "Extreme Extension" on sale Hi Mac I don't work for either Woodpecker or Router Technologies but I used to represent both companies here in the UK. Now as the Xtreme Xtension was originally built for me to solve a problem I had in the UK market I know that is a good price. By the way there is no E on the front of Xtreme or Xtension, it is reserved for when you have bought one and you go Eeeee it works like they said! Cheers Radar Roger From: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, September 3, 2014 6:40 PM To: LOM - Tim Subject: Router "Extreme Extension" on sale I subscribe to Woodpecker Tools' eClub newsletters. I just received the latest Sale ad - where one of the "On Sale" items is the "ROUTER TECHNOLOGIES EXTREME EXTENSION" that several folks use with their LOM. The price seems to be a fairly good deal. Check this out: http://www.woodpeck.com/eclubspecials.html (Note: I do not work for them nor do I have any vested interest/relationship with them. All I know is that Woodpeckers makes high quality products - right here in America - NOT China!) Enjoy. Mac "Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who did not." (Thomas Jefferson) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
