Hi Joe B
Sterve White is a past president of the Ornamental Turners of America, a
professional tool & die maker an endless experimenter with new ideas and a
tireless booster of Ornamental Turning. Together with David Lindow also a
past president he makes and sells several highly accurate machines for the
centuries old craft of Ornamental turning.
Peter the Great of Russia had 19 different machines in the 1700's.
On making or buying a rose machine you might check out Jon Magill who has
designned a MDF machine that can be built for about $200 or if $'s are no
concern you can buy a brand new absolutely beautiful modern Rose Engine
(look up MADE LATHE) starting at about 85K$. Nearly all Holtzzaffel lathes
are antiques as the last of 2400 built was made in 1924 or thereabouts.
Highly sought after and most often highly priced. Since most practioners of
the art are no longer chiokldren they do come on the market from time to
cheers Tom Dotta
On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 8:57 AM, 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> I am starting a dedicated topic to this subject because this has the
> potential to get very interesting as well as challenging, but it was
> inspired by curt's find of a video on you tube of the rose engine lathe...
> that video is one of a series of videos, dedicated to the rose engine
> lathe... and from my perspective, a rose lathe is a high end ornamental
> lathe but working under very close tolerances... certainly the tolerances
> are greater than what we would work with when working with different wood
> species... but it is my understanding that the rose lathe was used quite
> often in the watch industry, thus the need for close tolerances...getting
> back to the video, it shows a pumping action of the headstock on the "Y"
> axis, which is typical on a rose lathe, as well as a pumping action on the
> "X" axis... the person who made the videos, steve white, is obviously very
> much into doing mods on his lathes...and what he has come up with is
> certainly very interesting, complex and just "off the charts", as the
> saying goes...with variations and adjustments that would seem endless...
> whether this type of pumping movement could be incorporated into a legacy
> machine or not, is an interesting prospect... could it be done on a legacy
> within the tolerances necessary to make it workable on a wooden
> piece?...again, not sure... but worth a discussion here and possible
> consideration... and certainly impressive is the "wave" set up that a
> number of members to this group have set up on their legacy... but this
> pumping action puts things on an entirely different level...and then comes
> the question, could it be done somewhat cost effective?... or is it better
> to try to find a rose engine lathe?...and what would that cost!... and how
> far does anyone want to take their legacy to try to achieve "holtzapffel"
> status?, if that is even possible...but even a holtzapffel did not have a
> pumping action in the headstock, I believe(I might have to take a mulligan
> on that statement!...LOL!)... anyway, if you are into this topic, I suggest
> you look at steve white's series of videos(there seems to be at least 30
> videos!) on the mods he did to his rose lathe...very interesting
> videos...joe b.
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