Max - other buyers asking -please make contact - chas7...@att.net On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 6:33 PM 4 Jim Carpenter <carpenter.62...@gmail.com> wrote:
> mail box full - buyers making offers - 314-359-6064 Ron for Jim > gears/indexes ? > > On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 1:12 AM MWF <mwfos...@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> Hello Tracy, >> >> Thanks for the "intro". You have come to the right place to get help and >> to share your skills & knowledge. >> If you provide us with the city/community where you live - you may find >> there is a Group Member within a reasonable drive distance. >> >> You mentioned you may be turning the balusters on your Mill. Give >> thought to turning half with a clock-wise spiral and the other half with a >> counter clock-wise spiral. Then, when assembling each railing section >> install clock-wise balusters on one half and counter clock-wise ones on the >> the other half. If you space them such that you have an odd number of them >> on the railing you can make the center baluster a non-spiral - perhaps a >> fluted or a simple tapered one. Regarding the spacing between balusters, >> keep in mind that most building codes require any "opening" (gap/spacing) >> between balusters not exceed (or be less than) 4.0 inches. For what it's >> worth, there is no need for your balusters to be 4x4" stock (that's huge). >> Most deck/proch/gazebo railings I encounter are the "standard" 2"x2" (or 1 >> 1/2" x 1 1/2"). Using the smaller size should save you a fair bit of cash >> as well as being much easier to handle/install. >> >> Welcome to The Group. >> Mac >> ------------------------------ >> ------------------------------ >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tracy Smith >> Sent: Aug 13, 2018 9:17 PM >> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: New Members and Moderation >> >> Thanks again everyone for the quick responses. Just based on this >> feedback, I think I need to correct a few things: slow down my router, >> sharpen/clean more often, and be more patient in my cutting. There have >> been times when I'm definitely too aggressive. >> >> My gazebo project came about because I bought the LOM. I like to build >> stuff and the LOM gave me an opportunity to learn the tool and figure out >> how to do something I don't know now. My plan is for a 14.5' gazebo with >> 1.5 overhang with a double roof. I've attached a couple of my inspiration >> pictures. The side rails will be basically 6' or the distance between >> centers of the posts will be 6'. The side rail design was simply me >> looking at a bunch of different gazebos, drawing out variations of what I >> liked and asking my wife what she liked. I've attached that drawing to see >> the variations I was thinking about doing. We've decided on the bottom >> right rail. The bottom support beam is a bit thicker and we both liked the >> supporting center baluster. The balusters are also spaced a bit further >> apart. The center baluster will be a transition baluster since there are >> 4-5 different designs for the major posts. The balusters are smaller >> versions of the 6x6 posts. All the balusters are from 4x4 redwood. The >> top of the side rails will be a two pieces of 2x6 redwood fastened together >> to hold the balusters with some router or mill magic on them. Nothing >> special but it should look nice. Since I am using different styles of >> balusters, I really don't know how it will turn out. It will either be >> beautiful or a bit of a visual nightmare. Oh well. I'll have fun building >> it. >> >> Last year I built a pergola just off my shop. I worked on the design for >> about 3 months off and on. When I finally decided what I was going to do, >> I bought "a pile of wood" and it took about 2 months to complete it. I >> really like how it turned out. The last picture is the pergola. >> >> I've watched many of the Legacy how to videos and wanted a project to >> learn how to do it. I actually live pretty close to where they manufacture >> their CNCs. Great people and it is pretty cool to meet the people in the >> videos. Since I still feel like I'm hacking my way through things, I am by >> no stretch an expert. The rope twist is from a 2" bit with a 6" pitch. >> The barley twist is a 2" bit with a single start. The flute I kind of just >> did what I thought looked nice. I think it was a 1/2 inch core box using 6 >> equally spaced index positions. >> >> The 1500EXL worked great but was missing most of the gears. I did buy a >> new .25 gear set but instead of buying some of the few new replacement >> parts, I've acquired a few machines that had the pieced I wanted and have a >> bit of a collection now. I do really enjoy working on this machine and I >> want to learn how to do all it is capable of. I just wish I had a lot more >> time for it. >> >> Thanks again, >> Tracy >> ------------------------------ >> ------------------------------ >> >> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 5:24 PM, Bill Bulkeley <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> >> wrote: >> >>> I find that a difficult question to answer how often to hone the bit ?, >>> depends on what wood your cutting how fast your running the bit how fast a >>> feed rate your routing how deep a cut and how it’s cutting. >>> >>> >>> >>> On the rope spiral in your pic with a 2 inch rope bit cutting hardwood >>> I would take 2 passes on each spiral one rougher and one finisher and I >>> most likely run the bit a little slower rpm and feed than recommended >>> because its hard wood. but it also depends on vibration too I vary both >>> feed and speed slightly till I get a nice smooth finish and vibration free >>> cut. >>> >>> I would expect to cut 3 or 4 posts perhaps more before giving the bit a >>> bit of a hone to touch it up >>> >>> This is just my opinion others may have different ideas but as I said >>> depends on the wood and all of the above. >>> >>> >>> >>> speed on different dia bits defiantly matters if you ran a 3 inch bit >>> say at full speed of your router it would be a dangerous and vibration >>> would be a problem too and could lead to catastrophic failure of your work >>> and damage the bit. So try to use the rpm guide for router bit dia it will >>> help the life of the bit too. >>> >>> >>> >>> Please correct me any one out in the group if you disagree all this is >>> just my opinion >>> >>> >>> >>> Very nice posts by the way thank you for posting the pics of them, >>> perhaps you could add some details for us like what pitch you used number >>> of starts which cutter, number of flutes and so on. Here on the group we >>> are always interested in work done on the LOM and how it was done no matter >>> what it is right guys? >>> >>> >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto: >>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Tracy Smith >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 14 August 2018 12:37 AM >>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com >>> *Subject:* Re: New Members and Moderation >>> >>> >>> >>> Thank you for the quick replies. Attached are the three styles of >>> balusters I've made so far. These are for the side rails of the Gazebo. >>> I'll have 4-5 styles in all when I'm done. This year I'm just creating the >>> Gazebo kit. There are about 70 in total. I won't actually build the >>> Gazebo until next year. I'm more of an outside builder with wood then a >>> real carpenter. Not comfortable at all doing nice furniture and finish >>> work - yet. But I'm pretty comfortable building stuff outside. Last year >>> I built a large Pergola outside my shop. This was done before I purchased >>> my LOM. >>> >>> >>> >>> Regarding the sharpening of the bits, I've watched several videos and >>> feel like I'm doing what has been instructed. However, with the Rope Twist >>> bit in particular, it just looks like it is not a nice finished touch. I'm >>> currently doing all my work with Redwood. How much use of a bit do you >>> typically do before you clean and/or sharpen it? I don't have any baseline >>> on what I should expect. I also have not paid much attention to the router >>> speed so maybe that is contributing to my problems. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Tracy >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 8:14 AM, Bill Bulkeley <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Here is what I have from the old legacy site before it was taken down on >>> router bit storage, sharpening and use of router bits for the LOM I follow >>> this or get them professedly sharpened if chipped or just replace them if >>> too badly damaged . >>> >>> Can you post some pictures of your balusters and posts you did on the >>> LOM we always like to see any projects members do on their mills. >>> >>> >>> >>> Welcome to the group >>> >>> >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto: >>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Tracy Smith >>> *Sent:* Sunday, 12 August 2018 10:23 AM >>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills >>> *Subject:* Re: New Members and Moderation >>> >>> >>> >>> Hello group, >>> >>> >>> >>> My name is Tracy. I live just south of Salt Lake City, Utah. This last >>> year I finally finished a real shop in my back yard. As I was tooling out >>> the shop, I came across a Legacy Ornamental Mill. Never seen or heard of >>> them before. I saw a few being sold in my area and in January of this year >>> I got a 1500EXL. I've loved figuring it out. I'm building a large Gazebo >>> in my back yard and making all the balusters and posts using the LOM. It's >>> easily the funnest tool I've used. >>> >>> >>> >>> The one question I have from those experienced is what is the secret >>> with keeping the bits sharp? I've purchased a number of bits from >>> Magnate. I have a diamond sharpener but honestly the last time I sharpened >>> my 2" rope twist bit, afterwards it actually seems to cut worse. So I'm >>> not sure what I may be doing wrong. Any ideas would be appreciated. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Tracy >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to >> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at >> https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. 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