That idea does seem to simplify Dans concept
Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2023 5:22 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Woodturning Newsletter - What You Don't Know Hello Guys! Just work up. (its 1:56pm.) Long night at work I got home form a 15hr day at 5:30am. I only state this due to me coming to this topic late... I have not seen this video. (Nice) But for the Group We can use these disks in the same way as Ron Brown shown. But We can also use them in another way. By making a simple jig to mount onto these type of disks, We can lock the plate together with the spindle so that we can move the part separately form the Legacy gearing system. Meaning By using a indexing system together with the gears of the Legacy, Can/Will allow you to do more complex ropes easer with out all this carriage movement as for the offsetting of each rope. The idea is a modification form Mike P.'s carriage indexing video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjcFpO51upw (Mike's video) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYb-fe4GS8M (My indexing Mod.) NOTE: Same but different concepts, Mike uses the acme screw for the indexing, I am using the gears, Not trying to get anyone confused, so I need to clarify things. No onto the "Brown's best" Indexing plates. By making a locking method for the 1-8" headstock of the Legacy, you can lock his indexing plates onto the Legacy, Then you can lock the part onto the plate, by removing the indexing pin will allow you to index the part while leaving the gears locked into place. This makes it easer for indexing flutes, and or roping. (depending on your needs.) NOTE: on my roping indexing plates are made to be simple, 2,3,4,6,8. indexes so I do not have to count holes, My goal was to make things more simple, But using a more adaptable indexing plate (like these Brown indexing plates) will allow more possibility's, (similar to Dan's checkering) Have a good day everyone. C.A.G. On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 10:56:33 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com <mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: Yup a bushing and you're all set. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty Ziegler Laser Worx LLC 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 3:34 PM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: There are index plates on ebay too that could be made to fit the legacy https://www.ebay.com/itm/361588846468 Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2023 5:37 AM To: LOM Group <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Woodturning Newsletter - What You Don't Know Hey Curt I could post it again. It really never drew much interest but always worth a try. He sure has some interesting items for sure. It's cool you've met him too. On Sat, Oct 28, 2023, 8:16 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote: Wow there are some really Cool things on this site. Ron Brown I have meet and talked to many time over the years.(at the wood working shows.) I do own some of his toys. But this Off-center chuck and ladle chuck are Very nice, And I could see those being used with and on the Legacy. Nice find Tim. I know you put the Longworth chuck on your rotary table Tim, Could you post a photo of your MOD? (I am sure many in the group have not seen it.) C.A.G. On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 07:10:14 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com <mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: Turning accessories we all could use. I have his LongWorth Chuck. And its the one I mounted on my Rotary Table on my 1200. Kind Regards, Timothy J. 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