Great description Curt. I too have 20 plus years of designing and making templates. Many by hand, but in the end most were drawn in AutoCad then cut out on a small CNC template machine. Kind Regards,
Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty Ziegler Laser Worx LLC 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 11:55 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Hello and Good evening everyone. (I just got home form work.) > > I was asked about these templates that I was making, And I thought > others might also like to hear more on this topic. > First off, the ones that I am making today are stainless steel, but in the > past I > made and used many other materials, I have wood, plastic, and metal > templates that I > have both bought and made. > The bought templates are both plastic and metal. Pen State are the only > company that I > know of today that still sell templates for turning. but in the past there > were more. > I think the CNC world has all but destroyed that part of the industry, > Templates were the poor > man's CNC. to make copies of parts for many woodworkers (in all fields not > just wood turning.) > > I see the template as a general guide only, I am not looking for fine > details in my templates, only > the general shapes are what I want. The details I choose to add with my > Legacy and or turned by hand, > this give my work a homemade/custom quality , but also lets me have the > finer look of a production > quality, that many people today are looking for. > > When I start, I always start with the centerline of the part. This > centerline is where I not only start to draw > from, but its also this line is were I align my templates and machines so > everything works together. this is why > every template has a flat on both edges, those edges are/is the center > line of the part. (made for easy alignment.) On my lathe and Legacy, this > center line is the center points of the tailstock and headstock. > all measurements are taken form this point. > These stainless steel templates are made for my bone turning handles that > I like to make today. I am limited > to the measurement of the handle I make. those are. 3 3/4" long x 1/2" > tall (remember the spindles are originally 7/8" dia. round, so just under > 1/2" is the dia. will be my max, size for my cuts.) > As a General note. these templates are for small work, if the spindle is > larger then what I want to make the template too will also have to be > modified, if I choose to use it. This leads to the need of having many > different templates. At this time, I have appx. 300 templates hanging in my > shop. (I only have one photo, at this time, it is of one of my three racks > that hold some of my templates.) In the photo there are wood, Corian, and > plastic templates that I made on a laser a few years ago. Many of these > templates range form stair case parts, finals, and other wood turning > design patterns that I wanted to make over the years. > I have a rack in the rafters of my shop which has many table legs and > spindles form side jobs. fully made parts that I used as templates in my > early days of wood working. > > Back to the topic. > If you are only looking for a general shape and key points, that have to > be copied, templates are an easy way to maintain quality and to increase > speed in production. > Today I find it fun, and easy to make templates when needed. these > stainless steel templates that I have shown. only take me appx. 20 min. > form start to finish. (the pic. of the Stainless steel templates are to > show how simple the designs can be, as well as the size of these templates.) > > If you have more questions, Please let me know. > Have a good night everyone. > > C.A.G. > > On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 06:05:10 PM EST, Curt George < > curt.geo...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > I too enjoy using the Wave attachment. > I normally stay small, but Large is So very cool! > Those are great photo's. > > C.A.G. > > On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 06:01:07 PM EST, <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: > > > With my wav I can even make waves like these I love it best mod so many > variations it can do > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of * > bulke...@mmnet.com.au > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2024 9:49 AM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* RE: New hand made Stainless Steel templates > > > > The wav attachment best mod we ever came up with > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2024 9:08 AM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates > > > > Hey Mac > > > > Yes you are right Stainless Steel is not easy to work with. using most > hand tools. > > But with a hand angle grinder and an abrasive wheel, Plus a pedestal > grinder with both a grinding wheel and wire brush and a few files.(for fine > detail work.) working with these scrap steel pieces was not all that hard > to do. Each template took something like 20 min. to make.(+/-) > > As I start getting more use to do this kind of stuff by hand again, I am > hoping the quality of my work will also improve? > > > > I just made one more turning today. > > This one is template work, with the Wave Attachment and the Legacy. > > > > More latter. > > > > Have a good day. > > > > C.A.G. > > > > On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 03:21:13 PM EST, M.W.Foscue < > mwfos...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > > > Curtis, > > > > Would it not have been easier to use pieces of scrap 2x2 angle iron or a > steel window lintel from a house being renovated? > > You may be able to fined scrap steel at a local "Habitat for Humanity > Re-store". (One of my favorite places to check out once or twice a month.) > > I have never tried cutting stainless - but have tried to drill it - and > that's a real bear! Much easier to drill angle iron. > > > > Mac > ------------------------------ > ------------------------------ > > -----Original Message----- > From: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Feb 12, 2024 2:32 PM > To: 'parr...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates > > Hello Peter. > > > > Its been a while since we last talked. > > > > The stainless steel for most of these templates are form an old kitchen > sink that was being thrown away. > > but stainless steel cabinets and or shelves are too always open for > projects for me. when I can find > > them. > > Take care. (and keep in touch.) ;-) > > > > C.A.G. > ------------------------------ > ------------------------------ > > On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 01:06:33 PM EST, 'parr...@aol.com' via > Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > > Nice work Curt > > Where did you source the stainless? > > Peter > ------------------------------ > ------------------------------ > > Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS > <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661> > > > > On Monday, February 12, 2024, 12:44 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy > Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Hello Everyone. > > > > I had some free time today, so I made these templates for my Legacy, Only > one has been tested so far, but I do think most of these should work well > for my uses. > > > > I can use these templates on All of my wood working equipment, both of my > Legacy's as well the lathes I own. > > > > Note: I see and use templates not as the final part of turning, but as a > general guide for basic shaping of my spindles. > > > > Making stainless steel templates is not all that hard, by using an > abrasive cutting wheel, and some hand files + a wire wheel to remove any > burs... the process is pretty easy. (If anyone wants to know more, Please > ask.) > > Tomorrow I hope to be able to try some of these out on some of my bone > turning. > > Have a good night everyone. > > > > C.A.G. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/cc57e42c-1538-2a85-47d3-bb6f8b35e407%40earthlink.net > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/cc57e42c-1538-2a85-47d3-bb6f8b35e407%40earthlink.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1337434408.854039.1707775693243%40mail.yahoo.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1337434408.854039.1707775693243%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/003a01da5e05%24a29a0060%24e7ce0120%24%40mmnet.com.au > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/003a01da5e05%24a29a0060%24e7ce0120%24%40mmnet.com.au?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/004901da5e07%24412e5b30%24c38b1190%24%40mmnet.com.au > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/004901da5e07%24412e5b30%24c38b1190%24%40mmnet.com.au?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1607511155.1475077.1707976542671%40mail.yahoo.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1607511155.1475077.1707976542671%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. 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