Access is notorious. To quote from a programmer who was referring to Legacy although not the issue at hand, "I often have to migrate clients' stuff from Access to something better because Access crashes when it reaches its maximum file size, gets incredibly unpredictable when it gets close, and slows to a crawl when it's about halfway there."
Alas. CE -----Original Message----- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 8:20 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart As somebody else suggested - are you certain that you PC is big enough, ie. enough memory, to handle your request? Have you tried increasing the virtual memory - if your hard drive is big enough? I still maintain that your setting of 50 is probably too low for all the blood relationships to be calculated. Ron Ferguson _____________________________________________________________________ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _____________________________________________________________________ ---------------------------------------- > From: wood...@msn.com > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart > Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:06:51 -0700 > > I have no problem with Ancestry Colors. The 28th GGU is a direct > ancestor, as is his brother. Ancestry Colors are correct; Direct Line Bold is color. > > It is the Calculator which shows one (full) brother as a GGF and the > other as a GGU. Because of generations marrying at different times, > intermarriages, multiple lines of ascent to the same person, one > brother is shown as a 28th GGF, but the other as a 28th GGU! > Accordingly, Relationship Calculator shows no direct connection > between me and the person it insists is my 28th GGU. > > That incorrectly called 28th GGU had a son, who is called, > incorrectly, the Husband of my 26th GGM rather than my 26th or 27th > GGF (He is both). As I said, Legacy has a problem with the math. In > this case, it cannot understand that a 29th GGF had one son who is a > 28th GGF and also a son who is both a 26th and a 28th GGF. > Accordingly, all the children in his line are not calculating as being > my direct ancestors by Calculator. Ancestry Colors and Direct Line > Bold show them as direct ancestors, but those two functions do not deal with the math. > > It seems impossible for Legacy to do this because the numbering > confuses the program. > > > CE > > > -----Original Message----- > From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On > Behalf Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:29 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart > > So you are saying that, when using the four colors for grandparents' > lines, ancestors of yours which are showing (apparently) different > colors than you expect, meaning they come through a different grandparent. > Question 1. Is this person in both gp lines? > Question 2. When running the program, how many different lines are > found between the 2 people. Have you printed all of them ( for > purposes of analyzing where the divergences are? > Since I don't use the four colors, I can't help with that, but since > each line is a direct line, everyone on that line should match until a > marriage to another color supersedes, using the internal rules. > The 'increasing to 50' is actually a hard drive/ram problem. When I > was using my desktop using L5, using the tools, slowed to snail pace, > then I eventually 'pressed the button'. When I got my laptop, I found > it was faster, and took a much larger report to get to the same > problem. I bought a external hard drive 3 weeks ago, and haven't had > it 'crash' yet. You may need more power. I did. > Rich in LA CA > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: CE Wood > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:07:07 AM > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart > > Because every time I have tried to increase from 50, Legacy, hours > later, returns the message that it cannot do it because it's too many > people (or numbers, or something). I forget the actual wording, > because I am unwilling to tie up my computer for that long just to > have it return the message. The default may be 999, but not for my > file. Over many Legacy versions, the same problem has persisted. > > Only Relationship Calculator/Set Relationships that has this problem. > Ancestry Colors quickly finds he is my ancestor, as does Direct Line > Bolding. > > Therefore, one would think that limiting the Blood Relationships to 1 > would work. It does not. That is why I think it is a mathematical > problem - Legacy can't figure out how, say, a 29th GGA is the child of a 26th GGA. > > > And, with no capability to do a direct ancestry or descent, about > which the OP was asking, I have a correctly colored, bolded, direct > ancestor who cannot be shown as such by Relationship Calculator. > > > CE > > > -----Original Message----- > From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On > Behalf Of ronald ferguson > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:45 AM > To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart > > > Out of interest, as I have no way of replicating your problem, why > have you limited the number of Blood Relationships to 50? It seems to > me that with 29 generations you will exceed that number by far. > > > The default is, of course, 999. > > Ron Ferguson > > _____________________________________________________________________ > > New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage > http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: > http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ > For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ > _____________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------- >> From: wood...@msn.com >> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart >> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:42:51 -0700 >> >> Just do a search of the LUG archives on this, and you will discover >> that this problem is an very old one. >> >> >> FOLLOW-UP EMAIL TO BRIAN THAT WAS NOT RESPONDED TO AND WAS A >> FOLLOW-UP TO > AN >> EMAIL THAT BRIAN DID NOT RESPOND TO: >> >> It is not just one family where this occurs, but ALL families where >> the ascents result in, for instance, a 29th GGancestor being the >> son/daughter > of >> a 26th GGancestor. The program will simply not list that >> son/daughter, who IS a direct ancestor, as being a >> GGGrandfather/GGGrandmother - not even in the additional relationships! >> >> At the very least, warn people of this flaw in the program, and >> advise > then >> to rely on Ancestor Color Coding and Direct Line Bolding instead. Of > course >> then, we cannot not know the generation number of the ancestor, but >> at > least >> Legacy won't be displaying the wrong relationship the way it does now. >> >> >> >> >> >> PREVIOUS EMAIL THAT BRIAN DID NOT RESPOND TO: >> >> Using Blood Rels = 50 and Non-blood = 10: Bernard is listed countless > times >> as 28th GGUncle and countless times as 29th GGUncle. >> >> Following down his descendants, who as he, are correctly color-coded, >> preferred direct line bold, and ancestor tagged, his GGGranddaughter >> is finally shown having an additional relationship of 29th GGM. But I >> suspect that is only because Calculator was able to figure out that >> her husband > was >> 29th GGF. >> >> Now please explain why her ancestors, back to the father of my >> incorrectly calculated 28th GGU, cannot be calculated. There is a >> flaw in the Calculator, or else it is useless when the going gets tough! >> >> Legacy can't seem to calculate how a 29th GGM of mine, Milia, can be >> the > 2nd >> GGD of another of my 29th GGMs (and 29th GGFs), so it just makes the >> intervening ancestors not direct ancestors. >> >> Also, Berenger, Milia's 3rd GGF, father of the incorrectly marked >> 28th > GGU, >> is related as my 29th GGF, as my 30th GGF, and as husband of my 29th >> GGM, BUT only through his daughter, full sister of the incorrectly >> marked 28th GGU. He is related through both his daughter and son, >> incorrectly calculated as 28th GGU. >> >> Ancestry color coding, preferred direct line, and ancestor tagging >> can all find that relationship; just not the Calculator! >> >> I really don't care about the extraneous relationships. What is >> IMPORTANT is the DIRECT ancestral line, which Relationship Calculator >> can't do. I'll bet that if the Calculator wasn't trying to figure the >> CLOSEST > relationship, >> it could calculate correctly. >> >> Relationship Calculator obviously can't figure this out, as others > reported >> YEARS AGO, so you should warn people that it can't do the >> calculations > when >> they get complicated!!! >> >> >> CE >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On >> Behalf Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES >> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 8:55 PM >> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart >> >> It has always worked for me. It is to show the path between two >> people. If there are multiple paths, the computer uses a sort >> technique judging which should come first. When I have used it to >> show my son's connection to Charlemange, it came up with over fifty >> diffferent paths. I neither confirmed nor judged if the order of the >> lists was accurate. I guess I didn't understand why you thought it outputting errors. >> Sorry if I missunderstand the issue. >> Rich in LA CA >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: CE Wood >> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:49:36 PM >> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart >> >> That would be fine for collecting the data, IF ONLY RELATIOSHIP >> CALCULATOR WORKED! My many requests and emails to Brian have >> elicited neither an explanation for this long-standing problem with >> Relationship Calculator, > nor >> a solution. Old LUG posts attest to this being unresolved for many >> years >> >> >> CE >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On >> Behalf Of Sherry/Support >> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:35 PM >> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart >> >> I used the Relationship Chart from the Relationship Calculator as a >> worksheet. Of course, DAR won't accept that because they have their >> own forms for you to fill out..... >> >> Thanks for using Legacy. >> >> Sherry >> Customer Support >> Millennia Corporation >> supp...@legacyfamilytree.com >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com >> >> We are changing the world of genealogy! >> >> When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. >> Thanks. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On >> Behalf Of Paula Ryburn >> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 7:24 AM >> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart >> >> This reminds me of a need I had a while back, when working on a DAR >> application. I needed the Lineage report, but I needed it to "know" >> the lineage between me and my Patriot. The Lineage report now just >> starts at one end and goes through the male line. I my lineage went >> through my > mother >> and her mother, then all men. Does this sound line anything anyone >> else would use? It's sort of a combination of the Lineage report >> (shows spouse and siblings) and one side of the Relationship >> Calculator (which works its way through men and women). Think I might just make a suggestion... >> Thanks, >> --Paula >> >> > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Learn how to add other email accounts to Hotmail in 3 easy steps. > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/167688463/direct/01/ _________________________________________________________________ Learn how to add other email accounts to Hotmail in 3 easy steps. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/167688463/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. 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