I have to say, I'd never heard the term half-cousin until recently, and that was in an article by Dick Eastman, entitled "There is No Such Thing as a Half-Cousin" http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2010/09/there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-half-cousin.html )
The important bit from his article states: Black's Law Dictionary defines first cousins as: "The children of one's aunt or uncle." Note that it says "aunt *OR* uncle," not both. All that is required is to share one aunt or one uncle, not both. Black's Law Dictionary defines second cousins as: "Persons who are related to each other by descending from the same great-grandfather or great-grandmother." Note that it says "the same great-grandfather *OR* great-grandmother," it does not say BOTH great-grandparents. Second cousins need to share only one great-grandparent. If they do share both great-grandparents, the relationship doesn't change; they are still second cousins. *Source citation:* you can see an image of the appropriate page from Black's Law Dictionary at http://blacks.worldfreemansociety.org/2/C/c0293.jpg So according to this, Legacy is wrong using half-cousin labels, these people should be cousins, not half-cousins. For what it's worth! Regards, Dermot. On 30 October 2010 18:25, Garl Satterthwaite <[email protected]> wrote: > Ward > > You got it. The Relationship Calculator displays both relationships > correctly, but the Set Relationships tool causes the Half Cousin to appear > on the Family and Pedigree Pages. This is OK if you have a few, but when you > get hundreds of relatives labeled as half cousins because the events > occurred a couple hundred years ago it gets very confusing. It seems the > direct relationship should take priority over the half relationship. It must > be a programming problem. > > Thanks, Garl > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ward Walker [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 8:40 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Half Cousins > > Are you referring to the Relationship Calculator? And the new scenario is > that an uncle of yours marries a half aunt of yours? And they are not half > siblings of each other? I tested this -- marrying an uncle on my dad's side > to a half-aunt on my mother's side -- and found exactly what I expected. > The > Relationship Calculator shows 2 distinct relationships in the upper panel > (Common Ancestors). Clicking on either changes what you see in the lower > panel (Descent from Common Ancestor). The first relationship shows the > child > of this marriage as my first cousin. We both descend from our fathers' > parents. The second relationship shows us as half first cousins. We both > descend from our mothers' mother (in my case), but that's all -- our > mothers > do not have the same father. > > Saying the same thing another way: Your uncle's child is your first cousin > and your half aunt's child is your half first cousin. It is the same child, > but you are related to it in two ways. > > Ward > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Garl Satterthwaite" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 1:03 AM > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Half Cousins > > > Ward > > It is little hard to duplicate, but if my Uncle marries a half Aunt their > child appears as a half first cousin rather than a first cousin. To me it > should make no difference who he marries their child should be a first > cousin. > > Garl > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ward Walker [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 2:20 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Half Cousins > > Garl, > > I'm afraid I don't see the problem. Two half first cousins share one common > grandparent (instead of two). Their children are then half second cousins. > They can't be full second cousins, since they only have one common > great-grandparent. > > Robert, such a relationship exists in my family (Scenario Two, below). I > don't think it is possible as a blood relationship. Legacy will not find > any > relationship between these two individuals. > > Scenario One: If A is a half cousin to B, their relationship is through > one > of B's parents. But B might have a half cousin, C, through the other > parent. > A and C are only connected via the marriage of B's parents. A is a 'half > cousin to a half cousin' of C. > > Scenario Two: Both of your, say, mother's parents remarried and had more > kids. So your mother has half-siblings on both sides, unrelated to each > other (except through the marriage of your grandparents). The children of > all those half siblings are half cousins to you. Those one one side (say, > your grandfather's) are half cousins to you, who in turn is a half cousin > to > those on the other side (your grandmother's). > > Ward > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert E. Carneal" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 1:29 PM > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Half Cousins > > > When I enter "halfsies," or "in-laws," or "married-ins," I get pretty > unsure of myself when I manually try to determine relationships. > Legacy has a wonderful relationship chart that I use a lot, but not > really all that helpful when it comes to "step" "half" "in-law" or > "married-in." Does anyone have a good cheat sheet defining these > relationships clearly? > > One cousin gave me a relation of "You are a half cousin to half cousin > of James." huh? There isn't such a relationship, is there? > > Thanks. > > Robert > > On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Garl Satterthwaite > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I find when an uncle marries a half cousin the half cousin label is > passed > > to the descendents in Legacy. The same is true whenever a any cousin > > marries a half cousin. This does not seem to be correct. > > > > > > > > Garl Satterthwaite > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp<http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp> > > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp<http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp> > > To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp<http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp> > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp<http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp> > > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp<http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp> > > To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp<http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp> > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
