>It was said a photo is >not a source, merely a representation of the source.
I still think you are missing the point. Whether something is a source or not depends upon the who the researcher is. A birth certificate may very well be a source to you or me but it will never be a source to the mother of the person. She was an eyewitness to the event and is always a source. (Yes, I know back in olden days women were given general anesthesia during childbirth.) Even if the child predeceases her or the hospital is torn down or whatever. Likewise with a tombstone. If I see the tombstone and record the data then to me the tombstone will always be the source no matter what else happens. To someone who never saw the tombstone then the marker is never a source. To the one who takes a photograph she is an eyewitness to whatever was photographed. On the other hand, regarding the picture center, I always try to include a citation - even to myself as a photographer - in the description field. Additionally, I try to add a citation to pictures in the metadata of the the file. Later on I may not remember where and when I took a photograph and a citation records that for me as well as assists any others who may someday use my photographs. -----Original Message----- From: Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, Feb 25, 2011 9:24 pm Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photos as Sources-----Sources for Photos Thank you all for input. Some kept more on the mark than others (my intended mark anyway) but all very interesting perspectives all the same. I was indeed soliciting perspectives on directly linking a source to a photograph in, say, the Picture Center, thus assigning a source citation to a photograph---to record from whom (or where) it came (its origin---its "source"), and of its inscription, if any. I do not see this capability---workarounds possibly (and thank you for the suggestoins), but not a direct sourcing capability. In weighing the pros/cons I remain convinced, at least for my purposes, an image (and audio/video for that matter) should have the capability to be directly sourced in the same fashion as other input (Notes for instance). I would like future generations to know the 'source' of photographs/inscriptions attached to my genealogy in the same way they will know the source of other information. Just to touch on a couple points mentioned. It was said a photo is not a source, merely a representation of the source. That is a slope with no end. The same could be said of a birth certificate. It's a representation, a record of a birth. The true 'source' of a birth is, well if taken to its ultimate end, certainly not a piece of paper. I think we'll all agree it's acceptable to stop at the birth certificate as being 'a source'. If all I have is a photograph of a headstone (such as in---all I have is a birth certificate as evidence of a birth), then the photograph is the 'source' of my information (and in my case I would like also to 'source' where that photograph came from). With regard to accuracy, indeed some sources are more reliable than others (thus the Surety Level option). Except for seeing an event with my own eyes I would trust no record completely on its own merit (and sometimes even seeing can't always be believed). For my purposes these points were not directly relevant to my subject----but again, interesting perspectives. Gary On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Dennis M. Kowallek <[email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 15:02:26 -0500, "Genealogy mail" > <[email protected]> wrote: > >>To answer your question, they did in fact program a means to source >>"Photographs, portraits & sketches" using SourceWriter if you have the >>Deluxe version. Add a new source and choose "Photographs, portraits & >>sketches" from the list of source types and follow the prompts. > > Thank you for posting in plain text. > > What you've described is a method to make the photograph the source, so > it can be applied to some fact in your database. This has always been > possible, even with basic sources. > > I think what Gary was looking for was a way to cite the source of the > actual photo. For example, I may find a photo of a ship in a book and > make a digital copy of it. I would like Legacy to remember that I > obtained this photo in book ABC at library XYZ on page nnn. There are > several ways to do this in Legacy, but not the usual method (create a > source for book ABC at repository XYZ, and then create a citation > linking the digital image on my PC to the source). > > I have always wondered why Legacy doesn't have this feature ... other > than the ugly programming it might involve. > > I'll have to take a look at the old GENTECH Genealogical Data Model to > see how they handled this. > > -- > > Dennis Kowallek (LTools) > http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools > > P.S. Post in plain text if you want me to read it... 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