We not live so long. They have told us they would have to totally rewrite the whole program, which isn't going to happen in my lifetime, at least. CE From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] UTF-8 Polish, Slovak, Ukranian, non-English characters Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:19:31 -0500
A better question is when/if Legacy will add these sets. Marianne -----Original Message----- From: Michele Lewis Sent: Mar 12, 2012 8:13 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] UTF-8 Polish, Slovak, Ukranian, non-English characters Good grief! I am nowhere near computer savvy enough to do all of that! I think I will just wait until Legacy adds the alphabet set! michele From: John Magyari [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 8:55 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] UTF-8 Polish, Slovak, Ukranian, non-English characters After reading Michele's comment about Polish Characters I tried the following: In Legacy I tried to use Ukrainian, Polish and Slovak letters and I could figure out how to enter them. I exported a UTF-8 Gedcom 5.5.1 file with 4 people in Legacy an English person whose father was Ukrainian whose father was Polish whose father was Slovak used all english characters for names.. I then edited created Gedcom file with notepad and added Cyrillic, Polish and Slovak characters to the appropriate person's name. I then imported into Genbox, FTM2012 both imported gedcom no errors and were able to create charts with all characters. I then imported into Legacy did not see any error messages, non-English characters were not displayed correctly. Names stored in fdb tables IR, MR, NR and NX appeared as they do in Legacy but not like they do in the Gedcom, Legacy export mentions UTF-8 and Ansel which both should support Polish, Slovak and Ukrainian (Cyrillic) characters. Here's the gedcom 0 HEAD 1 SOUR Legacy 2 VERS 7.5 2 NAME Legacy (R) 2 CORP Millennia Corp. 3 ADDR PO Box 9410 4 CONT Surprise, AZ 85374 1 DEST Gedcom5.5.1 1 DATE 12 Mar 2012 1 SUBM @S0@ 1 FILE R:\Program Files\Legacy\Data\UTF8.ged 1 GEDC 2 VERS 5.5.1 2 FORM LINEAGE-LINKED 1 CHAR UTF-8 0 @S0@ SUBM 1 NAME John Magyari 0 @I1@ INDI 1 NAME English /E2/ 2 GIVN English 2 SURN E2 1 SEX M 1 _UID D2E6041F943745EFA4B75A476B01DDE302B7 1 CHAN 2 DATE 12 Mar 2012 3 TIME 05:03 1 FAMC @F3@ 0 @I2@ INDI 1 NAME Ukrainian /U2лджє/ 2 GIVN Ukrainian 2 SURN U2лджє 1 SEX M 1 _UID E4BF8AAB39B34493BAC6D52004B69B056A21 1 CHAN 2 DATE 12 Mar 2012 3 TIME 05:03 1 FAMS @F3@ 1 FAMC @F1@ 0 @I3@ INDI 1 NAME Polish /P2żśłą/ 2 GIVN Polish 2 SURN P2żśłą 1 SEX M 1 _UID 69BD6EF9F49C4624BCE63281EAA9DF4896F4 1 CHAN 2 DATE 12 Mar 2012 3 TIME 05:03 1 FAMS @F1@ 1 FAMC @F2@ 0 @I4@ INDI 1 NAME Slovak /S2ôúäň/ 2 GIVN Slovak 2 SURN S2ôúäň 1 SEX M 1 _UID CF781FD94CA144F6B6496BDE23C5458C67F0 1 CHAN 2 DATE 12 Mar 2012 3 TIME 05:03 1 FAMS @F2@ 0 @F1@ FAM 1 HUSB @I3@ 1 MARR 1 CHIL @I2@ 1 CHAN 2 DATE 12 Mar 2012 3 TIME 05:03 0 @F2@ FAM 1 HUSB @I4@ 1 MARR 1 CHIL @I3@ 1 CHAN 2 DATE 12 Mar 2012 3 TIME 05:03 0 @F3@ FAM 1 HUSB @I2@ 1 MARR 1 CHIL @I1@ 1 CHAN 2 DATE 12 Mar 2012 3 TIME 05:03 0 TRLR On 3/11/2012 5:19 AM, Michele Lewis wrote: Speaking of Polish locations… Be aware that Legacy does not include the needed alphabet set to be able to write the Polish characters. Michele From: John Magyari [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 8:08 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to document Locations in Europe 5 Fields vs 4 Fields Thanks for everyone's ideas. Some of my Polish time periods use 4 some 5 positions I decided to force all 5 location positions into 4. Having same number of fields helps with sorting. Ideally if would be nice to specify Number of locations field MAX. Then if entered with less fields specify which fields to become null. ie. MaxPositions = 5, LessPositionOrder if less 2,3if less than MAX ie For Me for Poland city, administration, county, state, country (1,2,3,4,5) If less fields entered enter Nulls city, county, state, country (Null 1 field - admin) city, state, country (Null other 2 fields -admin, county) city, state (Null other 3 fields) state (Null other 4 fields) I will use 4 fields, and in the process converted all locations with fewer positions to 4 position system. john On 3/11/2012 4:04 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: John, By all means use the American four field standard for American locations, but for other countries use their own formats, normally the way in which they are written. Ron Fergusonhttp://www.fergys.co.uk/  From: John Magyari Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 7:35 PMTo: [email protected] Subject: [LegacyUG] How to document Locations in Europe 5 Fields vs 4 Fields Typically for US locations i have ****4 FIELDS City, County, State, Country How do others handle European Countries? For example I have a village in Poland Area 1900's part of Austria Hungary Village, District, Province, Country ****4 FIELDS Lipowiec, Sanok District, Galicia Province, Austria-Hungary Same place in 1940's ****4 FIELDS Lipowiec, Sanok District, Krosno Voivodeship, Poland Almost all places in Current Day Poland 1950's through today *****5 FIELDS City, Gmina, County, Voivodeship, COUNTRY Lipowiec, Dukla Gmina, Krosno County, Subcarpathian Voivodeship, Poland and since 2012 *****5 Fields Lipowiec, Jasliska Gmina, Krosno County, Subcarpathian Voivodeship, Poland When some locations ideally be 5 FIELDS, do you go back and update those with 4 Fields? 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