It sounds to me as though you still need to think in terms of creating temporary working databases...leaving both your original database and the new one as your reference and intact. Once that's done create the new database. Tag and Export the records whose notes/sources you want changed from your master file into the new data base ...only do a few as a practise if deep breathing is a problem. Then go to your new untouched data base file and do the same....REMEMBER BOTH those files still have original, untouched info...if you screw up you can go back and access the original information again...once info from both of the new data files are in the same file.. then go ahead and play....remember, you still have both files with the original info Combine your sources, add notes...make your working database as pretty and functional as you can...and when you are done....go back to your original master file, create a second new database file and do another export...then go to your prettied data base and do the same....this time, do a merge. You should wind up with: Your original database file. A new database file will the info you want added A working database file that contains info from both files you want combined but not perfected And the perfected, merged file...that becomes your new master file When it comes to originally selecting folks for the first export, only choose the events that you want....deselect as much as makes sense because remember...when you do the FINAL merge.that's when you would be allowing the new and improved database with the corrected sources etc to be combined with your original info. It may sound complex but it does preserve your info at every step of the way
-------Original Message------- From: Ian GARDENER Date: 6/25/2012 1:05:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors Thank you for your input but it fails to address the issue, it does not achieve the required result. Copy and paste never came into it, at least not from me. I DO NOT WANT TO/CANNOT IMPORT PEOPLE FOR REASONS OF MY OWN, I am dealing with events only and perhaps sources, thousands & thousands of them and import/merge is NOT an option as stated in my opening question. The simplest thing would be if I could keep events open in one screen while working on someone in the other screen, so I can transcribe & check as I go. Legacy does not allow this however access database (legacy's engine) does, so I'm trying to find a way to make it work in legacy too. Simple as that. Being able to template events across different databases would be good (albeit problematic under windows) as would running simultaneous versions of legacy but none of these work in legacy windows, although all can be done in varying degrees, in the access engine that is Legacy's heart. I've tried it on a unix machine and all can be done there easily using emulators too BUT my laptop does not run unix. I could do screen captures and keep that open in one screen but it will nearly triple the time involved At this point the most helpful ideas are finding another program that can read legacy files directly, accurately & completely so i can open that in one screen/monitor while working legacy on the other, building a legacy compatible reader (groan), accessing the legacy database tables directly (double groan) or finding a way to shell legacy to run a second copy without installing a new operating system. The last is looking as the most promising right now. Regards Ian BTW Like your site by the way. -----Original Message----- From: JLB [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, 25 June 2012 1:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors Ok, I've read it (for the fourth time) - Stop trying to copy and paste. Go to Family View on both screens. Drag and drop 'John Smith' on the right to 'John Smith' on the left. Proceed through the screens: Just The Individual Above, and anything else on the screen you're interested in. Click Start Copy Do what you want on next screens til you get to Merge. Then keep all information on the left, as you want it, go to the Events tab and send the Events on the right to the left side. --- JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/ On 6/24/2012 8:37 PM, JLB wrote: > If I could find you in the thread I would. I only see your name in it > once and I could swear you've been talking on this subject practically > forever. If you'd like some help, kindly humour me and tell me your > problem. > > JL Beeken > JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists > http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/ > > On 6/24/2012 8:29 PM, Ian GARDENER wrote: >> Several things, please read the thread. >> >> cheers >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: JLB [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Monday, 25 June 2012 1:28 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors >> >> I don't know what you mean about database locking. As I understand it you re trying to get Events from one family file into another. What's stopping you? >> >> JL Beeken >> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists >> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/ >> >> On 6/24/2012 8:18 PM, Ian GARDENER wrote: >>> I've explained it several times. Are you saying you can get around database locking? >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Ian >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: JLB [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Monday, 25 June 2012 12:39 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors >>> >>> I run two Legacy files in split-screen and I don't understand your problem. >>> >>> JL Beeken >>> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists >>> http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/ >>> >>> On 6/24/2012 7:14 PM, Ian GARDENER wrote: >>>> No I’ve made it clear a few >>>> times that the issue is running different legacy files in each screen. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Ian >>>> >>>> *From:*Ron Ferguson [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> *Sent:* Monday, 25 June 2012 9:57 AM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors >>>> >>>> Ian, >>>> >>>> I think we must be talking at cross purposes here, I was under the >>>> impression that you wanted the same DB opened twice. Using the >>>> split screen you can copy/paste across. You can only do it one field at a time. >>>> >>>> Ron Ferguson >>>> >>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/ >>>> >>>> *From:*Ian GARDENER<mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >>>> *Sent:*Monday, June 25, 2012 12:22 AM >>>> >>>> *To:*[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >>>> *Subject:*RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Agreed. >>>> >>>> However I can run 2 instances of ms access simultaneously with >>>> different databases/files no worries at all, >>>> it’s a classic use of db. This is blocked in the Legacy front end. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Ian >>>> >>>> *From:*Ron Ferguson [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> *Sent:* Sunday, 24 June 2012 10:06 PM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors >>>> >>>> Ian, >>>> >>>> Legacy does not use the windows clipboard, but its own, which is >>>> why you can only copy/paste into the same database. >>>> >>>> Yes Legacy is Access based. >>>> >>>> Actually in this respect, it does not matter that Legacy is Access >>>> based as the restrictions are the same for all well constructed databases. >>>> They are there to stop the users corrupting their own files, and >>>> should be welcomed. >>>> >>>> Ron Ferguson >>>> >>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/ >>>> >>>> *From:*Ian GARDENER<mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >>>> *Sent:*Sunday, June 24, 2012 12:34 PM >>>> >>>> *To:*[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >>>> *Subject:*RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> No matter what i do, I cannot cut and paste from one file to another. >>>> I can copy/paste within the same file but not using two different files >>> >>>> Specifically: >>>> >>>> On the let screen/split I have myself open in the new database, on >>>> the right screen I have myself open in the old database. >>>> >>>> In the right screen I open up details, open an event, then copy it >>>> to the clipboard. I then close that screen (have to to proceed), >>>> click on the left database and the clipboard in now empty. It >>>> doesn’t matter wether I save >>>> or cancel in the old database, the result applies, “THE EVENT CLIPBOARD IS EMPTYâ€ÂÂÂ. >>>> >>>> So I set up two new databases in split screen and tried the same >>>> thing, same result. The clipboard does not hold data once I click >>>> on the different file in the other screen. Someone mentioned access >>>> (is Legacy accessdb based?). So in access database I tried >>>> essentially the same thing and same result. >>>> >>>> Ian G >>>> >>>> *From:*Carl Cox [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> *Sent:* Sunday, 24 June 2012 10:36 AM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy split screen view on 2 monitors >>>> >>>> <<This works if both splits are open to the same file (regardless >>>> of >>>> individual) but I cannot get it to work when each split is open to >>>> a different file L >>>> >>>> Ian>> >>>> >>>> We must be talking past each other, because I often use this method >>>> within a single file and between different files in a split screen. >>>> The only requirement is that you "save" the individual information >>>> as it currently is, regardless of when it was entered. That saved >>>> information becomes a template from which you can use any piece of >>>> information you wish, in any database. I don't know if Legacy >>>> remembers the last one saved when it is closed - it very well could. >>>> I have 2 files that I record current happenings in, identically in >>>> both, and I call up split screen, enter the personal information in >>>> one database, save it, then go to the other database and copy each >>>> newly entered information by clicking on the field name. Is that how you are trying to use this method? >>>> >>>> Carl >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Legacy User Group guidelines: >>>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >>>> Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>> Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >>>> Follow Legacy on Facebook >>>> (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) >>>> and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >>>> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >>>> >>>> No virus found in this message. >>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com<http://www.avg.com> >>>> Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2437/5091 - Release Date: >>>> 06/24/12 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Legacy User Group guidelines: >>>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >>>> Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>> Archived messages from old mail server - 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