Thanks Charani & Ron
I think I will just use the research notes when I need to clarify proof.
Ron, I will adopt your probability approach when I have "negative proofs" as I 
agree entirely with you on that.

Why I am doing this...
I am trying to look at my Family Tree as if a descendant 2+ generations later 
picked up the tree and wondered why I chosen certain parents when there were 
other candidates.  Also I am aware that variations on some lines in my tree 
exist on the web that I do not agree with (especially in ancestry).  I want to 
document exactly why I made my choice, which for the most part rely on positive 
sources (baptismal and marriage records).  Where I have the 'Negative proof' 
what I can do is prove it is Not the choice others have made in their trees.  
Taking on board Ron's comments this would increase the probability of my choice 
but not prove it.

I gave up long ago in trying to correspond with people who showed these 
erroneous links, as their response, if any, was to cite the other trees that 
greed with them.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy....@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: 13 August 2012 19:20
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Proof of relationship



3rd time lucky!!


Alan,

I can see where you are coming from, but I have not found the need to do 
extensive work on this, with respect to pretty well all my family, who are 
readily identifiable from the sources available. There is one exception (my
5 G G grandfather) where I have been unable to find a source which links him to 
the person who I feel sure is his father. I have an extensive ToDo on him 
detailing all the sources I have checked, and when, and I still regularly make 
checks to see if anything has cropped up. The person I am sure is his father is 
there because there is nobody else I can see who could be, and other evidence 
indicates he is the most likely candidate anyhow.

However, I do not accept the concept of "negative proof". This is often a 
concept used in ignorance by the media, often in the concept of a new medical 
treatment, asking for proof that there are no adverse effects. This can *never* 
be proven, only the probability range can be stated. Similarly one can never 
say that negative proof can be used to define a relationship - only the 
likelihood. In the case of my relative, it is possible, albeit unlikely given 
other evidence, that his parents were just passing through the town at the time 
he was born. DNA may resolve the question, but at the moment I have no contact 
who would serve to confirm the relationship.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Ferguson
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 6:13 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Proof of relationship

Alan,

I sent this earlier, before Charani replied, actually I sent it from an email 
address not registered at Legacy so it bounced! Anyhow, I decided to send it as 
my reply is not quite the same.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Pereira
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 2:28 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Proof of relationship

I am starting a research task in the todo list in providing proof(s) of 
relationship, which can be through a multitude of sources, the most difficult 
being the negative proof.
My initial throughts were to create a document as a backup source detailing 
these proofs.  Then again, why not just use the research notes.
Just wondering what others do...

Alan Pereira






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