Larry, You say that as if your are an insider who knows what is already in V8. Are you?
This issue has come up on the list several times over the last few years. I was hoping that the V8 developers had already given it some consideration. But if you have some pull, please go for it. It is the type of feature that can be added in a minor release, too. Ward From: Larry Lee Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 4:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool Ward etal, I will propose a new feature regarding SourceWriter and GEDCOM but due to the current v8 schedule it will have to wait till later as it will require too much programming at this time. Larry Lee [email protected] On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Ward Walker <[email protected]> wrote: GEDCOM is the source of the problem, but I have long advocated that an optional workaround could be provided in Legacy. In fact, this is near the top of my list of things I would like to see in a major new release. Since Legacy already knows how to format (for reports) the various master and detail fields of a SW source, it seems to me that the programming effort would not be overwhelming to similarly format those fields into a Basic-style source in the GEDCOM export. Yes, this would flatten out the sources such that there is no effective hierarchy of master and detail, but at least such sources would be readable in the system that imports the GEDCOM. Right now, they appear rather scrambled (depending on the template type). Ward From: Walt Quering Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 9:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool I may misunderstand the issue, but, from what I've seen, the problem is a GEDCOM problem, not a Legacy problem. The aging GEDCOM model has only so many fields for citations and dumps data from unrecognized fields in the software of origin into its note fields. Back when Legacy was the only software with detailed templates for sources, this impacted only Legacy, but other programs now also have detailed templates, so it impacts them as well. I've seen similar situations in other arenas, and, while the problems are not insurmountable, neither are they inexpensive. They also require that all parties involved cooperate. On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Larry Lee <[email protected]> wrote: CE, I know very little about the use of GEDCOM, it either works for me or it doesn't. Granted GEDCOM development is always behind the times. I understand backward compatibility is always a challenge. Even so, since Millennia created Sourcewriter shouldn't they be responsible to create a workaround algorithm to export the appropriate fields into current GEDCOM fields? Even if most of the information might wind up in a notes field at least the information would available on the import end, although maybe not as useful as if it had proper GEDCOM fields. Larry Lee [email protected] On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 5:45 PM, CE WOOD <[email protected]> wrote: Unfortunately for Source Writer devotees, it is not a Legacy problem, it is that gedcom standards are out of date. Then again, perhaps a Legacy gedcom could be created that would accommodate Source Writer templates, but only for import back into Legacy. That might be useful for cleaning up a Legacy file, but still would not help if you were trying to send someone a gedcom to import into their genealogy program. CE -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 09:35:26 +1000 I hope Legacy 8 will fix all these problems. John From: CE WOOD Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 5:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool Before you convert, I advise you to read the archives here to learn about the many problems associated with using Source Writer templates. Many people have converted all their sources back to Basic because of the problems, not the least of which is the fact that gedcoms do not recognize Source Writer templates, and your sources will become Basic, but not also the way you would want them to read. CE -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:38:44 -0500 Hello: In an effort to clean up my sources, I would like to convert my existing basic source citations to the new Source Writer templates, but am unable to find the "Source Template Conversion Tool". My manual for 7.0 indicates that it is reached from the Master Source List by clicking the Options button but it is not available as a choice on my program. I have the latest build, 7.5.0.219. Can anyone advise me please? Thanks kindly. Christine Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). 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