Kathy,
Here is my take on the SSDI.  One cannot find a 100% method of locating and 
tagging every individual  that is in your database and also in the SSDI.  
However, you can narrow it down to those that could have been included in the 
SSDI.  Here is my formula using the Detailed Search:

Look for Whom? = Individual
Where to look = Birth Date
How to look = After
What to look for = 1870

AND

Look for Whom? = Individual
Where to look = Death Date
How to look = After
What to look for = 1936

AND

Look for Whom? = Individual
Where to look = Living
How to look = Equal To
What to look for = NO

Clear List before this search
Create List

Now we need to add the individuals who have no death date recorded but were 
born after 1870.

Look for Whom? = Individual
Where to look = Birth Date
How to look = After
What to look for = 1870

AND

Look for Whom? = Individual
Where to look = Death Date
How to look = Equal to
What to look for = (leave blank)

Add results to existing List
Tag the list with the tag of your choice.

If you have already documented some of the individuals in your database you may 
want to untag them.  To do this use the following:

Look for Whom? = Individual
Where to look = Source-Master Source
How to look = Contains
What to look for = SSDI ( or any part of your master source name)

Clear List before this search
Create list and untag

Note that between 1936 and 1962 when this database was not computerized only a 
small percentage will found.  Also between 1936 and 1952 farmers and 
self-employed will not be included.  The 1952 is not a mistake.  That is when 
SS became available to those people.
Also note that even though SS was not computerized until 1962 some of the data 
was added as files were needed to be pulled for some reason.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: singhals [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:17 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ordering Social Security records

Kathy Meyer wrote:
> Does anyone have a successful way to search records to come up with a
> list of people who would be good prospects for ordering their Social
> Security records?
> I know they would have had to have died after 1936.  I'm not sure if
> women registered or not or if everyone registered or if it was just a
> random thing for registration.  I don't want to pay $29 just to find
> out the person never applied for social security or registered with
> the system.  They're not always on the SSDI because if the family
> didn't apply for death benefits, they wouldn't be on there.
> Anyone have a good way to create such a list to consider?  I tried but
> it was too general - too big.  I have the deluxe version.
> Feel free to reply privately if you have any attachments to share that
> couldn't be sent thru the list.
> Thanks!! Kathy


I don't know how "good" a system it is, but it worked for others for years.

FILTERs are:

MALE
born after 1870
died after 1962
NOT a farmer [this one eliminates a whale of lot of folks] NOT self-employed 
did NOT die while in the military

It is not necessary to have drawn SS; anyone with an SSN will have an 
application on file.

Railroaders filled out the same SSA as the rest of us; IF they first got their 
card through the RR, their SSN will be a 777-##-####.

Federal government employees, civilian or military, have an SSN.  State and 
Local governments -- depends; some had their own independent retirement systems 
and employees didn't need an SSN.

VERY few women had an SSN prior to maybe 1960...because very few women worked 
in jobs that required an SSN.  My GM
(1902-1997) used her husband's SSN with a B suffix. Her sister had an SSN as 
early as 1948, because she was a bank teller.  Even fewer children had one.

FWIW

Cheryl





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