Well, I have to speak up here and disagree. I edit an average of at least 300 persons records every day and I hardly ever take my hand OFF the mouse.
(And in reference to the future of keyboards, I would not ever dare to suggest that that is for everyone, especially programmers, but the general public will surely be keyboard-less depending on the acceptance curve along with the decrease in costs for touch screens,) On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 6:30 PM, singhals <singh...@erols.com> wrote: > Allow me to concur with Wendy's opinion of having to reach > for the freakin' mouse every few seconds. For those of us > who use more than two fingers for typing, that mouse is as > unhandy as a rubber crutch outdoors at 95F. > > The mouse issue is my major black-mark against Legacy, only > partially lessened by "but everyone else is too!". So, if > everyone else jumped off a cliff, would you? ;) > > Cheryl (just because I can't get the shortcuts to work for > me doesn't mean they wouldn't be handy!) > > Wendy Howard wrote: > > Sorry Brian, whoever told you that either doesn't know enough to give an > > informed answer, or thinks keyboard shortcuts should go in the too-hard > > basket and be forgotten about. > > > > Ken and Dave may remember meeting my "other half" Nigel on the 2010 > > cruise around New Zealand. He's a software engineer/developer, and has > > worked (for instance) on Symantec Ghost from since before Symantec owned > > the product until they closed the Auckland R&D office three years ago > > and shipped that work to India. He knows what he's talking about when > > it comes to this sort of thing. > > > > He says that keyboard shortcuts are not impossible, you can implement > > them when there is a ribbon. That there are keyboard shortcuts already > > in v8 shows it can be done when there is a will. > > > > It might be a big job to write the code to reinstate the ones that have > > been "lost" and have them functioning as they should (and maybe reassign > > those where it's not practical to use the key combination that was used > > before), but it can be done. It's more a matter of how willing the > > developer is, and how much effort can be allowed to be put into the job. > > > > It's not a small issue. Ask any programmer worth their salt if they > > would like writing their code without keyboard shortcuts in their IDE > > (integrated development environment), and had to reach for the mouse > > instead, each and every time - I'd almost be willing to put money on > > that answer. It's unthinkable. > > > > It's equally unthinkable to me, a person who uses the keyboard without > > looking at it and types with all eight fingers, to use Legacy without > > keyboard shortcuts. At least in the long term. > > > > I will be submitting a suggestion for this in a moment, and I recommend > > anyone else who is missing keyboard shortcuts to do the same, so the > > developers can judge for themselves how important it is to their product. > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Wendy > > > > PS Who's bright idea was it to reassign the keyboard shortcut Alt-F4 > > from the Windows standard "quit program" to "switch to Descendant > > view"? Rhetorical question, I don't want to know the answer. But it is > > just wrong, wrong, wrong (and also proof of what I say above). Please > > restore it to its original purpose asap. > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/126449 > > > > > > Brian/Support said the following on 28/11/2013 3:17 p.m.: > >> As I understand it from the programmer's explanation during the beta > >> testing, we cannot trap (technical term for capturing for a special > >> purpose) standard key presses and pass those on to implement the ribbon > >> functions. > >> > >> Making a suggestion is unlikely to change anything since what you will > >> be asking for (if it is the two key commands you want reinstated) is > >> impossible. If you want to suggest that those old keyboard commands be > >> implemented as Alt-key, Ctrl-key combinations then a suggestion would be > >> appropriate. > >> > >> Brian > >> Customer Support > >> Millennia Corporation > >> br...@legacyfamilytree.com > >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com > >> > >> > >> On 27/11/2013 7:15 PM, Wendy Howard wrote: > >>> Thanks for the quick response, Brian. > >>> > >>> Your answer is very disappointing, though. I much prefer keyboard > >>> shortcuts to reaching for the mouse or trackpad. > >>> > >>> This might be a deal-breaker for me. I'll have to think about it. > Quite > >>> happy with v7.5, so have no qualms about continuing to use it for now - > >>> and my Deluxe customer number for v8 just arrived a few moments ago, so > >>> I have a choice to make. > >>> > >>> I hope there is a plan to restore them (albeit with new key > combinations > >>> that fit the new ribbon control) in the near future. > >>> > >>> Would it help if I put in a suggestion through the proper channels? > >>> > >>> Kind Regards, > >>> Wendy > >>> > >>> Brian/Support said the following on 28/11/2013 12:49 p.m.: > >>>> They have gone. One by-product of the change to the Ribbon control we > >>>> use in Legacy 8 is that we can no longer use those old two letter > >>>> shortcuts and now can only use Function Key, Alt-Key or CTRL-Key > >>>> shortcuts as documented in the Help. > >>>> > >>>> Brian > >>>> Customer Support > >>>> Millennia Corporation > >>>> br...@legacyfamilytree.com > >>>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com > >>>> > >>>> On 27/11/2013 1833, Wendy Howard wrote: > >>>>> Where have all the keyboard shortcuts gone? The list in v8 is > >>>>> significantly shorter than the one for v7, and my "old favourites" > are > >>>>> not working. > >>>>> > >>>>> Basics such as Edit Wife (E - W) and Edit Husband (E - H) appear to > have > >>>>> vanished. Along with Add Daughter and Add Son, Husband's Parents, > even > >>>>> the shortcuts to switch between views. > >>>>> > >>>>> Am I missing something, or have they gone? > >>>>> > >>>>> Wendy > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and > on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). 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