I agree with most of Kathy's examples. I never use est unless it is established. (And for some reason in the back of my head a long time ago I remember some software when importing gedcom did not properly import est dates)
I ALWAYS use abt for any incomplete dates abt 1900 will elicit a complete date from someone, whereas 1900 will just be read and assumed you dont need the full day and month. Marriages are always aft birth year +17 of youngest person in couple, or marriage is bef the birth year of fist child. In Kathys example of a child I would still use married bef 2014 (which is still correct, but at least gives a starting point to look rather than no info at all) For childrens birth its is always aft marriage year or after youngest parents + 17 years. census age to years is always abt. As most of my work is intended to be seen by non genealogists I realize that some data in a field is by far better than no data, especially when working with large families that inter-married and used the same naming traditions. And everyone PLEASE stop putting a womans married name in the surname box. her surname is/was her maiden name..... When gedcoms are passed on or info taken from a source that has done that I diligently verify it only to find 98% are in fact having their married name entered in the surname box. It's time the genealogy world starts thinking "Big Picture" and how not to cause further problems in the future. On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Kathy Thompson <kmthoms...@gmail.com>wrote: > Where I have specific dates with specific ages I use about > aged X in Y - born About Z > > > Where I have an event occuring at a date and that event can only happen > after a certain age - marriage, voting, etc - then I use Before > on an electoral roll in 1921 - born before 1900 (notes: based on min legal > age of 21 to vote in X location at that time) > marrying in 1867 - declared as "of full age" - born before 1846 (notes: > based on "of full age" being the age of 21.) > > > When I have a child of a couple being born/baptised at a known time, I use > other clues to establish marriage > Baptism - does the register indicate base born or natural or illegitimacy > in anoy other way? Yes? then I note that no marriage had occured at that > time, otherwise I leave it blank as unless you have confirmed ages for the > parents at that time and therefore know that marriage it likely to be > within the last year. > If I had a child next year, and an assumption was made that I married the > year before the child was born, they'd be wrong. I got married 18 years ago. > (Yes, Legacy would throw up "First child born too long after marriage" > warning signs) > > > As for whether to use About or Estimated - I prefer About/Abt simply > because Est can also mean Established. > > > > On 6 January 2014 16:52, Valerie B Garton <vbgar...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I have now confused myself: >> >> Age 21 in 1911 census born abt/est 1890 >> >> Died age 47 in 1865 born abt/est 1818 >> >> Child born 1867 with no marriage for parents - marriage est/abt 1866 - >> source: marriage date assuming this is the first born child Parents of >> above >> child F born est/abt 1841 M born est/abt 1854 - source: birth dates >> assuming >> parents aged 26 and 22 at time of possible first born child >> >> Any more suggestions please ? >> >> Cheers from Valerie in sunny Sydney >> >> >> >> --- >> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! 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