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Regards, Tom -----Original Message----- From: JV Leavitt [mailto:jleavi...@att.net] Sent: 07 January 2014 03:27 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] When to use est and when to use abt As one of the "rest of you," allow me to pipe in here. I suppose an honest, though humorous entry would be "guess" instead of Estimated, but Estimated means the same to me anyway. Moreover, I have come to regard the term about, or abt to mean 'guess,' since, most of the time, you find it to have been a (wild) guess. Sometimes it is based on an often used formula, but isn't that also a guess? I rather like using the term Estimated. I must admit that I've used Est as an abbreviation for that, but since I've learned from this list that some of you think that Est means Established, I will, in the future, spell it out. <sigh> Joseph Leavitt On 1/6/2014 6:46 PM, Bob Austen wrote: > > Hi Jay, > > Help me out here, what is the norm for ‘calculated date’, and > when/how do the rest of you use the term? I’ve not seen it used for > another particular purpose, so I am interested in knowing how you > understand it and what others are expecting to see by that. Would you use > ‘Est’ > as a guess/fill in date? I also use FTM and the default is to > change circa/cir/c/Est/ to Abt. I want to differentiate between that > terminology and my guess. > > I don’t like to leave missing birth dates (in particular) and will > most often put in an estimated date or a range (also an > estimate/guess) to better sort the individual. > > Bob > > *From:*Jay 1FamilyTree [mailto:1familytree....@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, 6 January, 2014 2:39 PM > *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] When to use est and when to use abt > > Bob, > > You do the rest of us a disservice by using Cal for a date that is not > a calculated date. Any data that comes from you will assumed to be a > calculated date. > > However you use the program within your PC................. and is > best for you ......is great. > > But if you are going to stray from the expected or norm, please take > into consideration that others will never know you changed the > expected data. > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Bob Austen <rgaus...@telus.net > <mailto:rgaus...@telus.net>> wrote: > > If a census shows age 21 in 1911 I would use 'c 1890'. (Circa/Cir/c) > I use Cal (Calculated) for my best guess. In my file I know that a > 'Cal' date was *my* guess and did not come from any other source. > > Bob > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Valerie B Garton [mailto:vbgar...@gmail.com > <mailto:vbgar...@gmail.com>] > Sent: Sunday, 5 January, 2014 10:53 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > <mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com> > Subject: [LegacyUG] When to use est and when to use abt > > I have now confused myself: > > Age 21 in 1911 census born abt/est 1890 > > Died age 47 in 1865 born abt/est 1818 > > Child born 1867 with no marriage for parents - marriage est/abt 1866 - > source: marriage date assuming this is the first born child Parents of > above child F born est/abt 1841 M born est/abt 1854 - source: birth > dates assuming parents aged 26 and 22 at time of possible first born > child > > Any more suggestions please ? > > Cheers from Valerie in sunny Sydney > > > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! 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