Hi, Ron —
Thanks for your reply and for testing the various webpage output problems. I
have submitted a bug report on these problems. See my comments below (in a
different-colored font for clarity) on the few points where you needed further
explanation or were unable to confirm the same results. All other sections have
been snipped:
(1) In Individual-Style Website pages —
* For many couples, events print on one spouse, with
notes attached and event pictures, but on the other spouse the events only show
up in the event note portion, and so attached images do not display.
I cannot assess this, it may depend on the type of Event –
marriage or individual – please let me know where you attach your images.
I was talking about individual events and noticing differences in the ways
individual events were being displayed. Some of these were census events (not
shared events, but duplicated as individual events if other individuals shared
in the same census event), residence events, occupation events, etc.
However, it appears my comments were somewhat mistaken on this topic. I have
noticed a difference in the output on events, and I thought this difference in
output was related to whether or not images were showing up in the output. By
more careful examination, I see that the difference in output had nothing to do
with the lack of images — it was simply a coincidence. The problem that I was
noticing, however, is that on some people the Events print under a heading that
is titled simply “Events” (with ruled lines above and below the word), whereas
for others the events print under a double heading that is Events (with rules
above and below) followed by “Notes” (also with rules above and below). This
second Event-header Notes appears unrelated to the real “Notes” heading which
follows the Spouse and children section, and prints out general notes, birth
notes, etc. (as I have chosen in my output options).
I was noticing the difference in the Event header almost every other person —
for a while I thought it was gender-related, but it was not as simple as that.
If one spouse had one style of heading for events, the other almost always had
the other style. When I first saw this happening, coupled with the discrepancy
in images (which turned out to be completely coincidental), I thought what I
was seeing was the output of events for one individual and event notes only for
the other individuals. In fact, as I examine it now, the only difference
appears to be in how the section is titled.
However, I have noticed that none of my sources on events are attached or
printing at all. (New problem not previously noticed.)
* On the name list, when alternate names are included, it
appears that the main preferred name for a female is then omitted from the name
list. (This may be a problem in other styles of web pages, too.)
Mine includes both the AKA and Birth Name in the Name List –
perhaps a settings question?
When I check the setting for "Alternate given and surnames" on the What tab,
I’m not sure what names are ending up in the name list. It’s certainly not all
the AKAs. In some instances, an AKA replaces the birth name (the preferred
name that shows on the main family page) in the index. That’s why I was
thinking that the main name for a female was being omitted. It appears that
the name list, instead of being generated from the AKAs, is simply taking one
example of a particular surname with one example of given names, pairing them
together, and moving on to the next surname for the individual. So instead of
“Harrower, Alice Elizabeth” (birth name), I get “Harrower, Alice” or “Bishop,
Alice E.” in my name list — but not also “Harrower, Alice Elizabeth” or
“Bishop, Alice” — which are also names for this individual. In several
instances for men, I found all the AKAs listed — but none of the name birth
names. For other men, the reverse was true — the main birth name ended up in
the index, but the AKAs did not appear.
* If the option to “include the main name from each page as the
page's title” (Project tab) is checked, then that individuals’ name displays at
the top of the page EVEN WHEN privacy options say to set that person’s name to
Living or Deceased (as the case may be).
I do not have this option under the project tab –where is it?
On the project tab of the Individual Style web page creation, about 1/4th of
the way down is a check box that says "Include the main name from each page as
the page's title", followed by two fill in boxes for “Add the title prefix of:”
and “Add the title suffix of:”. If I have this box checked, it overrides
privacy options and a page for a living individual will have their full name
listed at the top of the page.
For that matter, why are webpages for living individuals printing with sources?
Don’t the reports usually suppress the generation of sources for living
individuals? (I recall that being the default on most of my printed reports.)
(2) In Family-Style Website pages —
* Adds "Title Suffix" to the title of all family-report pages
(even though that was left blank on the project tab)
I’m afraid that I do not understand your comment. If you mean
under the Project tab: “Title for each page” leave blank, then it works for me;
the top of the page just has the name of the first couple. But see Project Tab
comment above
Upon further examination, it appears this was an error in my original settings.
Or, perhaps it became an error somehow — “title suffix” was grayed out and I
did not select it or edit it at all — but I did save a copy of my settings for
the test run. When I pull up those settings, it shows “Title Suffix” as words
to append to the page title. So somehow the grayed out suggestion became the
reality of my setting when the report settings were saved and/or run.
* On the family page for a living spouse with a deceased spouse
(when privacy options are set to replace names with “Living” or “Deceased”), it
still gives the full name of deceased spouse in the title of family group page,
and then when it gets to the deceased spouse in the body of the page it says
this spouse is "Living." For children of this couple, the deceased spouse
shows up with full name.
Re the first part, this I can confirm. Since in my cases the
children are living I cannot confirm part 2.
I don’t think I was very clear about this bug. What I meant was, not only does
the Deceased spouse show up with full name in page title and as “Living” in the
data area, but if you click the link for a child of this couple (with one
living spouse and one deceased — although it shows up on the webpage output as
Living), then on the linked page the parents show up as Living and
Deceased-Spouse-With-Full-Name.
* Deceased child shows up with all info, even though the option
was set to change that to simply "Deceased."
Not for me, I’m afraid
In my test case for the deceased child, the child happened to be the son of
living wife and a deceased husband. Perhaps the results are different when both
spouses are living.
(3) In Ancestor-Style Website pages —
* Deceased spouse shows up in report, even if privacy said to
change name to Deceased. (Shows up as “Deceased” on the living spouse’s
information, but then shows up with all information on details when it is the
deceased’s turn to be listed in the report.)
I am unable to confirm this, but a deceased child did show up when
set to deceased
My test case had me and a few generations of my lineage — my father is living,
but my mother died a year and a half ago. I wanted to hide Mom’s information
because there is too much reference to living individuals on her page. So the
report shows Generation 1 – 1. Living, all well and good. Generation 2 — 2.
Living, married to Deceased, children are Living. Well and good. But then you
get to 3. — Mom (the deceased spouse) — and suddenly it’s all the details about
Mom — except the report does manage to remember to hide her spouse’s name.
<sigh>
Thanks again for helping identify these bugs, Ron!
cheers,
Kirsty Haining
Seattle, Washington
J
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