Thanks Brian and Michele. With your clue that perhaps the original Gedcom file is the source, I think I have solved the origin of the Attributes event field. This probably is not of much general interest, but for anybody else who will be trying to import an old Roots3 database into Legacy, for what its worth I’ll describe the situation.
I went back to look at the Gedcom file (created from a Roots3 database in Aug 2005 so maybe this is an outdated Gedcom specification) and indeed it contains lines saying simply ATTR *. Roots3 used the asterisk symbol to flag direct line ancestors, so that is the “attribute” being referred to. I should have picked this up right away, but I guess I edited some of the direct line individuals to remove this Attribute event right after the Legacy import when I was still getting acquainted with Legacy. I didn’t recognize this Attributes event as a problem, nor appreciate its source and extent for awhile. Since Legacy keeps track of direct line ancestors differently, this Attribute field is clearly unnecessary. So the way to eliminate it is to edit the Gedcom file with a simple global Find and Replace (with Notepad for example) replacing all lines saying 1 ATTR * with nothing. This leaves empty lines in the Gedcom, but the subsequent import by Legacy seems to work fine- the empty lines in the Gedcom are ignored. And now there is no Attribute event for any individual. John Townsend Sent from Windows Mail From: Brian/Support Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 4:47 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Michele/Support I have no idea where an "Attribute" Event would come from either. The GEDCOM spec has an "INDIVIDUAL_ATTRIBUTE_STRUCTURE:= but there is no "Attribute" Event nor is there a TAG value for Attribute like ATTR. The structure of an attribute is similar to an event but they are just preceded with one of the Attribute type tags below. The Attribute Types allowed in the Spec are: CAST (caste), DSCR (physical description), EDUC (Scholastic achievement), IDNO (Natinal ID Number such as SIN(Canada) or SSN (USA)), NATI (National or tribal origin), NCHI (number of children), NMR (count of marriages), OCCU (Occupation), PROP (possessions), RELI (Religious afiliation), RESI (Resides at), SSN (Social Security Number), TITL (Nobility titles) and FACT (General catch all). In Legacy many of those items are Event names such as Education, Occupation, Religion, etc.. Only someone familiar with the software that created the GEDCOM containing that Attribute Event would know where and how it is used. In this case that would be Roots 3 or 4 if John's recollection of the source for his GEDCOM is correct. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation [email protected] http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com On 26/11/2014 3:44 PM, Michele/Support wrote: > I have no clue but maybe Brian does because he is a lot better with gedcoms > than I am. > > Michele > > Technical Support > > <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] > > <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com> www.legacyfamilytree.com > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 1:45 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event field "Attribute" > > Thanks Michele. I was hoping for an easier solution than individual edits, > but this will do. Do you have any thoughts on the origin of this > “Attributes†event? I have 3 other large Gedcom (from Roots3) family > files to import into Legacy, and if I could avoid this same phenomenon I > would be very happy. > > John Townsend > > > > Sent from Windows Mail > > > > From: Michele/Support <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: ‎Tuesday‎, ‎November‎ ‎25‎, ‎2014 ‎9‎:‎26‎ ‎AM > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > > > Oops. I forgot you can't delete an event when people are using it. HOWEVER, > you can easily find and edit the people from this screen making the process > go a lot quicker. When you click Delete you will be told that people are > using this event and do you want to see the list. Say yes and then you will > have the list in front of you. Highlight each person one at a time and then > click Edit Individual. You can then delete the event from each one. When > you are on the person's Individual screen, highlight the event then click > Options > Delete. > > Michele > Technical Support > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > www.legacyfamilytree.com <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com> > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michele/Support [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:27 AM > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Event field "Attribute" > > As long as you are sure the information is not needed then… > > Go to View > Master Lists > Event Definition > > Scroll to the Attribute event and highlight it. Over on the right click > Options > Delete. That will globally delete this event. > > Michele > Technical Support > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > www.legacyfamilytree.com <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com> > > From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 5:10 PM > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: [LegacyUG] Event field "Attribute" > > I’m a new user of Legacy (v 8.0.0.454) and have a small problem. I > imported a Gedcom file created years ago from a Roots3 (or Roots4?) database > that I helped my mom create. I was pleasantly surprised at how well this > import worked. The relationships are fine; all I have to do is clean up some > of the location, date, and some other fields. However I soon noticed that > about 20% of the individuals had an event field titled “Attribute†and > the data within the event consisting of only the word “attributeâ€. I > don’t know where this field came from; I never created it. I can see it > might occasionally be useful, but in that case one could just add it. For > most individuals this seems like it is just cluttering up the database and I > would like to eliminate it. I haven’t figured out how. I can’t delete > an event title for events containing data. I can’t combine the event with > the “blank†event without just getting a blank event with the data > “attributeâ€! I h ope I don’t have to edit over 100 individuals one at a time to remove the “attribute†data. I’m hoping you experts can point me to the easy solution which I have missed. 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