Maybe I can simplify by asking this question: Where do I look (in Legacy) to see where my data is going? I want it to go to C:\Legacy\Data. And then can I safely delete that "stray" link on my desktop? I only want ONE way to access Legacy. Barbara
Sent from my iPad > On Jan 24, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Barbara Ford <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Oh dear. I am even more confused. Even though I have been using computers > since the mid-80's and consider myself fairly tech savvy, sometimes I wonder > what made me think I could successfully use and understand a program so > robust as Legacy. I want to be very careful with what I do next, because I > believe all my data was intact and in the places where I expected it to be > just prior to entering the death information about my father-in-law a couple > of days ago. So, I think that maybe if I ask my questions one at a time, I > will better be able to understand what I need to do to move forward with a > clear understanding (and if I need to manually re-enter the info about my > FIL, that's no big deal). So, once I open the file that was up to date prior > to the FIL data, THAT is the way I would want to save it, going forward. > > I'm not even sure if I am making sense. But, at the foundational level, I > need to know if what I have understood (and has worked for me) for years is > correct (for v 6): > I understood that Legacy saves data on the fly (while I am working and when I > exit), automatically. It was my understanding that data saves in > c:\Legacy\Data and that within that folder, the file is familytreewip.fdb. IN > ADDITION to that, and as an extra precaution, when I exit, I am asked if I > want to backup. I always understood that to be EXTRA backup--it is at that > point that I name the file and point it to My Documents folder, and I name it > with the date; it is a zip file. So, first I need to know if those two things > are correct. (I have made myself a note, years ago, that if I ever need to > reinstall Legacy, it would know to look on C:\Legacy for my data. That has > always worked for me.) > > Meanwhile, I do not know how or when, there is a link on my desktop that I > believe is basically a shortcut to my data, as when I right click on it, it > says familytreewip.fdb. (A few years ago, when I had trouble getting Legacy 6 > to work with my new Windows 7, someone in this group helped me....it may have > been in that process that the link got put on my desktop. I have never used > it to open Legacy--I have always used the software icon, to my knowledge.) > > It almost seems to me like there are two ways to access Legacy on my laptop: > one, the Legacy 6.0 icon, which when hovering over, says, Location: Legacy > (C:\Legacy) and then there is this link that is there that I have never > knowingly used, that is labeled familytreewip.fdb but when hovering over says > Type: Legacy Genealogy Software, 12.7 MB, and has today's date as the date > modified (because I opened Legacy with that icon awhile ago when I realized > it was there). > > While in Charting Companion, noticing that it was not using the most recent > data about my FIL, I saw a reference to two locations for the data, one being > my desktop. > > So now, if I open Legacy by clicking on the desktop link, it does have the > most recent info about my FIL's death, but it does not have the information > about my mother's death, two years ago. > > I do not want to merge data or do anything extreme, because I think all was > well until entering FIL's data a couple of days ago. So, I could open the > file from the C:\Legacy\Data location of the file, and then manually re-enter > the FIL data. BUT before I do that, I need to understand where my data is > going (how to I find the default location for my file), and I would then want > to make sure I never use that desktop link again. > > I am so sorry that I cannot seem to express my question in a concise and > reasonable manner. I so appreciate everyone's efforts to help me, I just > don't like using something that I don't have at least a rudimentary grasp on > how it works, in terms of data safety. I thought I had it, but sure don't > understand what just happened! > > If anyone is brave enough to jump into my confusion again, I do truly > appreciate it. > Barbara > > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jan 24, 2016, at 2:45 PM, R G Strong-genes <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Barbara, >> Is the one on the desktop a folder or is it a link to your data folder? If >> it actually a folder with just the familytreewip.fdb and user files >> associated with that family file and it has the most current file >> information then you can just copy all those files to your Data folder for >> Legacy. Then open legacy and search for the file you want to open. Then >> check your Legacy options and specify how you want to open legacy. It is >> probably set to open the last file opened. When you are working on Legacy >> the changes are always in the file you are working on where ever it is >> located. So when it closes if it doesn't ask for a backup it will be the >> same folder that you opened it from, if you happen to have that file in a >> different folder and open it from that folder you will not see the changes >> as they are actually in a different file. When you back up a file either by >> requesting a backup or when you close and it asks for one make sure the path >> is where you want it before you click save. The newer versions actually >> append the date and time to the backup so if you have several with the same >> file name you will know which is the latest backup. It is always best to >> keep your working family files in the same location so you know where your >> up to date files are. If you need to store them on another drive then I >> would recommend just saving the backup file of it on another drive and when >> you want to work on it then you can restore the family file to your working >> directory. I use google drive and only store my backups to that drive. I >> also store a copy of the legacy installation file, registration file, and >> user files for Legacy in there own folders on the google drive. I have both >> Legacy 7.5 and 8 on my computer so I have a folder for each version on the >> google drive for the corresponding programs. >> >> If you have different updates to your family file in more than one folder >> and you want to get them all into one file and they are copies from the same >> family file then you should be able to use the intellishare options under >> the find duplicates merge function. Open the oldest file and merge the >> changed files into it. >> >> from the help file: >> >> Here is how IntelliShare works: >> >> Form a research group of two or more people. (Each must be using Legacy.) >> One person in the group is designated as the "Keeper of the Records" (Keeper >> for short). This person keeps the master Family File. Legacy automatically >> marks all the records in the Master Family File with a serial number that >> uniquely identifies each individual. The Keeper now sends a copy of the >> Family File to all the other people participating in the group. >> >> Any or all members of the group can make changes to existing records, delete >> or unlink records, or add new records to the family file. The Keeper can >> also make changes and additions to the master file. >> >> After an agreed upon interval of time, all members of the group return a >> copy of the family file to the Keeper for merging and reconciliation. >> >> The Keeper then follows this procedure: >> >> Import all copies of the family file into the master copy (after making a >> backup of course). >> >> Press the Merge button and choose Find Duplicates. >> >> From the Merge Options window, click on the Special Searches tab and choose >> the IntelliShare option. >> >> Press the Continue button in the upper right corner of the Merge Options >> window. Legacy searches for all records with matching IntelliShare values >> and automatically merges those that have exactly the same information. At >> the end of this process Legacy displays the records where one or more >> persons have made changes. Legacy also looks at all surrounding links when >> deciding to merge. If the parents, spouses or children are different in any >> way, the two individuals are displayed along with a message describing the >> situation. All these messages are also saved in a file called MERGE.LOG. >> Legacy offers to display this file at the end of the merge process. >> >> The only records the Keeper has to look at and merge together are the ones >> that have been changed by someone in the group. >> >> At the end of the merge process, a list of any newly added individuals is >> displayed. >> >> After the merge is complete, the Keeper sends a new copy of the family file >> back to the other group members for more changes and additions. >> >> Legacy's IntelliShare greatly reduces the drudgery involved when going >> through the typical match-merge process needed to combine two or more files. >> >> hope this helps, >> >> Russ >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Barbara Ford >> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 2:05 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [LegacyUG] Help, please >> >> >> I have been using Legacy for years, and although still using version 6.0, >> because I haven't done any serious research work since I was using that >> version, I thought I was very "on" to how the backups work. In my mind, >> there is an "on the fly" backup that puts data in >> C:\Legacy\Data\familytreewip.fdb (with familytreewip being the "name" of my >> data). Then when I exit the program, when it prompts me to back up, I also >> do that, and that is a zip file that I keep in my documents folder. In the >> last three years, while I have not been actively involved in research, we >> have lost three of our parents, and I have updated Legacy with all that >> information. Today I have discovered that the data has been going to >> different places (do not understand how that could have happened). I >> discovered it (and maybe this will help with troubleshooting) when I tried >> to use Legacy Charting Companion and it wasn't bringing in the death >> information from Legacy, just posted a couple of days ago. I have now >> figured out that there is a familytreewip.fdb folder on my desktop. Some of >> the data I have entered in the last three years is there (visible when I >> open Legacy from that file), and when I go to >> C:\Legacy\Data\familytreewip.fdb, the most recent data is NOT there (and >> therefore not coming in to Charting Companion). Once I open Legacy from one >> location or the other, it opens it back up from there the next time I open >> Legacy. So, now there is one "version" of Legacy that has recent death >> information, and then the one out on C:\Legacy has data updated two years >> ago. I do not know what to do, and right after the death of my father-in-law >> is NOT a good time for me to realize something is wrong. Mainly, I don't >> know how to bring it together, and I don't know how to tell where it is >> actually going when I exit NOW. I do periodically copy the contents of >> c:\Legacy\Data to an external hard drive, and I have done that fairly >> recently. But even if I open the Legacy program from there, and discover >> that the only thing I have to re-input is my father-in-law's death >> information, I'm so confused now about where it all goes when I exit. I >> guess my main confusion is why it is sometimes going to the desktop file >> (and why is it even there?) and not to C:\Legacy. I am so sorry to be so >> unclear, but can anyone help me? I'm not so concerned about the Charting >> Companion--that's just what helped me discover that data is not going where >> I thought it was, when exiting. >> Barbara Ford >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Legacy User Group guidelines: >> >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >> >> Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> >> Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> >> Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com >> >> Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on >> our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >> >> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > <Http://scrappermamo.blogspot.com/> > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jan 24, 2016, at 2:45 PM, R G Strong-genes <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Barbara, >> Is the one on the desktop a folder or is it a link to your data folder? If >> it actually a folder with just the familytreewip.fdb and user files >> associated with that family file and it has the most current file >> information then you can just copy all those files to your Data folder for >> Legacy. Then open legacy and search for the file you want to open. Then >> check your Legacy options and specify how you want to open legacy. It is >> probably set to open the last file opened. When you are working on Legacy >> the changes are always in the file you are working on where ever it is >> located. So when it closes if it doesn't ask for a backup it will be the >> same folder that you opened it from, if you happen to have that file in a >> different folder and open it from that folder you will not see the changes >> as they are actually in a different file. When you back up a file either by >> requesting a backup or when you close and it asks for one make sure the path >> is where you want it before you click save. The newer versions actually >> append the date and time to the backup so if you have several with the same >> file name you will know which is the latest backup. It is always best to >> keep your working family files in the same location so you know where your >> up to date files are. If you need to store them on another drive then I >> would recommend just saving the backup file of it on another drive and when >> you want to work on it then you can restore the family file to your working >> directory. I use google drive and only store my backups to that drive. I >> also store a copy of the legacy installation file, registration file, and >> user files for Legacy in there own folders on the google drive. I have both >> Legacy 7.5 and 8 on my computer so I have a folder for each version on the >> google drive for the corresponding programs. >> >> If you have different updates to your family file in more than one folder >> and you want to get them all into one file and they are copies from the same >> family file then you should be able to use the intellishare options under >> the find duplicates merge function. Open the oldest file and merge the >> changed files into it. >> >> from the help file: >> >> Here is how IntelliShare works: >> >> Form a research group of two or more people. (Each must be using Legacy.) >> One person in the group is designated as the "Keeper of the Records" (Keeper >> for short). This person keeps the master Family File. Legacy automatically >> marks all the records in the Master Family File with a serial number that >> uniquely identifies each individual. The Keeper now sends a copy of the >> Family File to all the other people participating in the group. >> >> Any or all members of the group can make changes to existing records, delete >> or unlink records, or add new records to the family file. The Keeper can >> also make changes and additions to the master file. >> >> After an agreed upon interval of time, all members of the group return a >> copy of the family file to the Keeper for merging and reconciliation. >> >> The Keeper then follows this procedure: >> >> Import all copies of the family file into the master copy (after making a >> backup of course). >> >> Press the Merge button and choose Find Duplicates. >> >> From the Merge Options window, click on the Special Searches tab and choose >> the IntelliShare option. >> >> Press the Continue button in the upper right corner of the Merge Options >> window. Legacy searches for all records with matching IntelliShare values >> and automatically merges those that have exactly the same information. At >> the end of this process Legacy displays the records where one or more >> persons have made changes. Legacy also looks at all surrounding links when >> deciding to merge. If the parents, spouses or children are different in any >> way, the two individuals are displayed along with a message describing the >> situation. All these messages are also saved in a file called MERGE.LOG. >> Legacy offers to display this file at the end of the merge process. >> >> The only records the Keeper has to look at and merge together are the ones >> that have been changed by someone in the group. >> >> At the end of the merge process, a list of any newly added individuals is >> displayed. >> >> After the merge is complete, the Keeper sends a new copy of the family file >> back to the other group members for more changes and additions. >> >> Legacy's IntelliShare greatly reduces the drudgery involved when going >> through the typical match-merge process needed to combine two or more files. >> >> hope this helps, >> >> Russ > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on > our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). 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