Cathy

The mystery remains. 

The Options 2.2 are all checked (I had not changed them; assume that is the 
default – and it suits me). 

Entering incorrect dates was not the problem – but as you point out, it’s easy 
to do – I’ve found myself putting married date instead of birth date on 
occasions. None of those errors contributed to my stated problem. 

This part of the branch of the history was collated by another person, in late 
1999. It remains to validate much more from that Descendants File (I believe 
that it was created by “Brothers Keeper for Word”), as one of the re-entered 
children is obviously born too close to another. Legacy shows the problem, 
correctly. 

Of course that makes me suspicious of the rest of the data – but that is a 
separate issue from the problem that I encountered – and have now made 
disappear. 

I didn’t get to discover the sorting possible on the Childrens’ Settings, nor 
the global sort. I charged ahead and unlinked and then relinked.  

Before doing so, I closed Legacy, backing up to separate backups (not 
overwriting) each time, and reopened it some time later. 3 or 4 times. 

I wasn’t aware of how the .usr files are maintained. Having programmed and 
maintained Microsoft SQL Server and Access databases for a few decades, i would 
be hesitant to delete stuff without the developers’ OK (the lock file shouldn’t 
come into play anyway, as Legacy is always single-user afaik).  Though I do 
have write caching problems with some software, that requires a forced memory 
flush – usually by refreshing Windows Explorer, F5: so let’s blame it on 
Windows :) 

 

Ian Thomas

Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Wednesday, 3 August 2016 2:19 PM
To: Legacy User Group <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Children problem

 

Ian,
On the Facebook Group you can add screenshots.  So much easier.

I think you are saying you've done a Check/Repair.
If that's returning no problems, then you really do need to check Options.

Options - Customise 2.2 is the one covering automatic sorting of children.

But if visually they are in the right order in Family View in the Child Area, 
then that's probably not the problem. 
But do carefully check that you haven't inadvertently put 1986 instead of 1886 
or 1800 instead of 1900 etc. It's so easily done.

If the children really are in the wrong order, if you right click on a child on 
Family View and choose Children's settings OR click the little icon in the top 
left corner of the Family View screen, you'll find a Sort button on that 
Children's settings screen.  There's also a global sort at Tools - Other Tools.

It' s not the .ldb file that you'd delete! That is the lock on the database and 
usually deletes itself. The only time to think about deleting this file is if 
Legacy has crashed and when you start Legacy again, it says the file is in use 
- which means the .ldb file didn't get deleted.

You do occasionally get PP alerts which vanish on exploring - but I've only 
seen it in the special events.

Are these PP alerts persisting but still disappearing if you close and then 
reopen Legacy?

If so, I'd go to /Documents/Legacy Family Tree/_AppData/usr/ and delete 
Probslist.usr and Rptprobs.usr
All the usr files are your settings files. If deleted, they're just recreated 
when needed the next time you open Legacy. They sometimes get corrupted.

Cheers,
Cathy
PS As you get more familiar with the program, it will stop being a hassle 
everytime you try to do something. :) 

Ian Thomas wrote:




This might be easier t o show with a series of pictures, or a video – 
but I will try to describe the problem.

Despite check repair, etc I have a problem with 9 children added with 
birth date (no death date) for all, in a single session of about 20 
minutes. This is a simple family (no half-siblings, etc) and all born 
between 1884 and 1900, all marked as deceased.

They show as for example, “birth date of child 4 is before birth date 
of child 3” – previously, I thought that the order in which children 
are added is not important, and I believe I saw that Legacy sorts them 
appropriately.

When I click the red exclamation mark, to display the Potential 
Problems red explanation/warning description, the Potential Problems 
List window (a rather large one) pops up - but is empty - and 
immediately a messagebox (*Attention*) pops up over it, informing me 
that _there isn’t a problem_.

I haven’t changed the “r ules” relating to births of children in any 
way, since starting to use Legacy v8 – I find it’s simpler to leave 
the defaults for many/most things (so, I’m happy to accept that 120 is 
a reasonable age for a life, rather than change it down to 99).

And, as stated above, I have done the suggested repairs and do a new 
backup each time I quit. There are about 500 people in the database – 
a modest size.

My only thought is to unlink all 9 from the parents, and link them 
back in again. But it’s worrying that (A) the program seems to think 
they should be in birth-date order as listed in the lower panel, and 
(B) the error that is generated is “dismissed” by the program itself 
as not real.

I think there is some stuff-up in the Microsoft Access database, but 
I’m unwilling to delete .ldb files.

Ian Thomas

Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

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