Dave,
There hasn't been a change with that template from Legacy 8 to Legacy 9
(I don't think any have changed but I'm not positive).
Do you see these at NARA or get sent photocopies to be using Basic
Format? I would have thought you'd be seeing them online.
I do note that the input and the output order are quite different
depending on whether you choose basic or microfilm or online images.
I've checked my copy of Evidence Explained and the template is
reflecting that.
Here's a quote:
11.40 Pension Files
The essential details for pension files are much the same as those for
bounty land records (11.28). When you cite a pension file’s number, you
should include the letters that preface the number (S.C., W.C.,
Inv., etc.). These designate the type of file—Soldiers’ Certificate,
Widows’ Certificate, Invalid (i.e., disabled), etc.
When citing a pension for a widow or the eligible children of a deceased
veteran, your citation to their file must also fully identify the
veteran by service name and unit. Even though the files carry separate
numbers and are bundled in separate envelopes, they share a common
jacket that carries the veteran’s identity. When the veteran or the
widow submit multiple applications—say, first under one act and then
under another—you will again have multiple, but still separate, files
and file numbers within a common jacket. The key exception to the rule
that all files are jacketed with the veteran is the case of eligible
children of veterans whose mothers have remarried a man who is also a
pensioner; in those cases, the children’s file may be jacketed with the
stepfather.
The following examples cover typical citations to
• Civil War veterans (Union Army);
• Indian Wars pensioners;
• widows and remarried widows;
• rejected applicants;
• microfilmed pension indexes; and
• online databases.
Source List Entry
Civil War and Later Pension Files. Department of Veterans Affairs,
Record Group 15. National Archives, Washington, D.C.
Indian Wars, Case Files of Rejected Pension Applications. Records of the
Bureau of Pensions and Its Predecessors, 1805–1935. Department of
Veterans Affairs, Record Group 15. National Archives,
Washington, D.C.
First Reference Note
(Civil War veteran)
1. John W. Witters (Pvt., Co. E, 154th Ill. Inf., Civil War),
pension no. S.C. 283,321, Case Files of Approved Pension Applications
..., 1861–1934; Civil War and Later Pension Files; Department of
Veterans Affairs, Record Group 15; National Archives, Washington, D.C.
(Civil War widow, approved application)
2. Deposition of Claimant, 16 May 1902, Mary Scoville, widow’s pension
application no. 748,632, certificate no. 543,796; service of Frank
Scoville (Pvt., Co. M, 22nd N.Y. Vol. Cav., Civil War); Case Files
of Approved Pension Applications ..., 1861–1934; Civil War and Later
Pension Files; Department of Veterans Affairs, Record Group 15; National
Archives, Washington, D.C.
(Indian Wars widow, rejected application)
3. Mary A. Morse, widow’s pension application no. 2156 (Rejected), for
service of Daniel Morse (Pvt., Capt. H. P. Hill’s Co., Ga. Vols., 1836);
Case Files of Rejected Pension Applications, Indian Wars; Records of the
Bureau of Pensions and Its Predecessors, 1805–1935; Department of
Veterans Affairs, Record Group 15; National Archives, Washington, D.C.
Subsequent Note
11. John W. Witters Civil War pension no. S.C. 283,321, RG 15, NA–Washington
Cathy
Dave Keeney wrote:
Type: SourceWriter
Template: Military records > United States > Other records created at
the national level > Pension files > Basic format
The only on I've used in version 8 is the non Sourcewriter. Trying to
create a Sourcewriter source in version 9.
Same legacy file. No need to import, just trying to create a new
master sourcewriter source.
On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 7:54 PM, Cathy Pinner <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Dave,
Is this a SourceWriter source? Which template did you use?
Curious
If you've already used this source in Legacy 8, why are you
creating a new master source?
How is the output for the Master Source entered in Legacy 8?
Are you entering a new Master Source for a different Legacy file?
If you really need a new family file but will be using sources
you've used in another file, you can import them - either all the
Master Sources or tagged Sources. See View - Master Lists
Sorry, I could check as a tester as I still have the beta version
of 8, but I'm not in the USA and don't know anything about the
record set you are using which is why I need directions to the
template you've used.
Cathy
Dave Keeney wrote:
I just created a new master source in Version 9 for Pension Records
from NARA.
When I cite this source and put something in the "Item of Interest"
e.g. "Applicant: Name Child of Veteran: Name, etc.); the source
citation puts the "Item of Interest" first.
I think it used to put it after the Main Source info.
What I expected:
Department of Veterans Affairs, Record Group 15; NARA - U.S.
National
Archives & Records Administration, College Park, No. 5512 Applicant:
Name Child of Veteran Name, Can No. 2131, Bundle No. 61.
What I got:
No. 5512 Applicant: Name Child of Veteran Name, Can No. 2131, Bundle
No. 61.Department of Veterans Affairs, Record Group 15; NARA - U.S.
National Archives & Records Administration, College Park,
Is this right? Did something change? Or am I mistaken on the way it
used to look in Version 8?
Dave
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