Very well said Ken.  Thank you.
Carol

Ken Leavitt wrote:


Hi all,

It is apparent from the opinions expressed in this thread, that it is possible for you to reflect what I consider to be the most satisfying aspect of researching your family's history - it can be what you want to make it. If where you get your satisfaction is identifying as many ancestors and/or descendants as you can find and building a huge database to reflect that lineage, there is a place for that in this endeavor. If you want to take a more purist perspective and identify only direct ancestors and their siblings and refuse to accept anything that is not documented six ways to Sunday as part of your research parameters, there is a place for you also at the table. For myself, I enjoy immensely the detailed investigation of an individual and the times and places where he/she lived. I enjoy knowing who the person's spouse was, where the person lived, what he did for work, what she dealt with as the issues of the day and what events shaped their lives. I enjoy doing this in the context that an individual is descended from someone and most likely is someone's ancestor and that is all part of the quest. To the degree that I can document how I obtained this information, the process becomes even more rewarding. Each of us is unique and each derives satisfaction with our own uniqueness. The great benefit of a program like Legacy is that it allows us to organize whatever information we choose to collect in a way that enhances that satisfaction.

Realize that this perspective is a result of years of totally biased reflection on the matter.

Best regards

Ken Leavitt

----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Wait" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 12:21 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Wondering


I have almost 8,000 names on my tree. I have been able to verify most of them on the internet. Luckily I know relatives in Norway that can help. I don't know how I will get to England, Ireland, Scotland, the Orkeney's, and Europe to go to each and every place to get the legitimate proof. I don't have the money and maybe at my age not the time. Therefore I will depend on the internet for what I do get, hopefully someone in the future who has more money than I, will be able to go to these countries for the legitimate sources. I am not interested in one-upmanship, one name has led me to another which leads to another etc., I do love the history etc. that goes along with my research.
Carol


Claire Quortrup wrote:

I think what Bill may be saying is that the only ones in his database are the ones he can verify - ie has good sources for. Maybe not? But I doubt those with the huge databases of 10,000, 20,000 or 30,000 have verifiable sources for that many descendants or Ancestors. By the way verifiable sources does not include data from IGI or the Pedigree Resource File. Those are mostly leads not sources since there are most of the time no sources for the information offered.

If you do not have legitimate sourced proof that an individual belongs to your family all you have is a guess and all you have done is collect a possible lead. You can collect names from now to kingdom come but if that is all you do you have not done genealogy. You might as well take a city phone book and copy all the names that match those in your family. It actually verges on "one-up-manship." You need birth & death records, land records, wills, military records, census records and etc to prove a genealogy. It is hard work and can not be done strictly on the internet in 6 months or a year or more. But it is so satisfying when you find the one piece of information that provides the proof you have been looking for. If you are not involved in this kind of search you are missing half the fun of genealogy. I feel sorry for you.

Sorry for venting but I feel better. Spare me the critique of my comments. I have heard all the easy answer before.

Claire

----- Original Message ----- From: "John R. Bayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Wondering



Bill wrote:

I realize that this comment and question is not on the topic of Legacy
BUT as I read all of your emails many tell of a data base of
10,000--20,000-- even 30,000 individuals in your database with Legacy.
For myself I go back 8 generations for my bloodline 14 generation with
my mother's family, and 9 generations with my wife's side of her family
with both parents. This includes all children within each generational
family. And I have only tops 670 individuals. Yes, I have not expanded
on all 13 children of my 4th great grand father. just my bloodline.



Bill, if you go back one generation to your parents thats 2 people;
2 generations 4, so the number of people in a generation is 2 raised
to the power of the number of generations, or 2^n in math/computer
symbols. If you've gone back 8 generations on one line thats 256
people and if you've gone back 9 generations on another line, that's
512, which is 768 people without adding any siblings of these folks.
So I don't see how you could have gone back that many generations
on all your lines and have only 670 people in your file, and of course
it would be many more if "all children within each generational family"
were included. Perhaps you have some lines that don't go all the
way back for 8 and 9 generations?


                                                           jr
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