Kirsty, Tom, BE and all

Thanks a lot for all your comments on your methods. 

Regarding the "name" of the event, I have no problem putting something in
here i.e "Middlesbrough, 25 Willow St" which is fine when I look at the
address list BUT this looks horrible in reports. For example if I run the
narrative report it looks like this "was born in Middlesbrough, Yorkshire,
England (Middlesbrough, 25 Willow St , 25 Willow St, Middlesbrough,
Yorkshire, England)" I hope you will all agree this is horrible. This would
look fine if it wasn't for the "name" field entry. So, I'm guessing no-one
is using these address in reports? 

One possible solution that Milennia could provide to this dilemma would be
to add a "What to print" section to other reports for the addresses just
like in the address listing reports.


Regarding Tom's solution this does not work for me either. As I said
previously I use phpgedview to put my data on the web. This has a location
lsiting/hierarchy which uses each level of the address. If I use Tom's
method I'd get a different location for every entry of this type
"Middlesbrough (25 Willow St)". Whereas if they are only labelled
Middlesbrough, everything appears under one hierarchy node as it should.

Regards

Keith


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirsty M.
Haining
Sent: 19 July 2005 21:56
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location addresses (AGAIN)

Hi, Keith, BE, Tom and other listers -

I also have been working with locations as I recently switched to Legacy.
In fact, the handling of addresses was one of my major concerns and
reservations about switching to the program in the first place.  While I
understand that keeping your locations to a consistent and limited format
(city, county, state, country) makes good database sense (and computer
programming sense), I wasn't sure that it was necessarily good from the POV
of genealogy and sharing information.

What convinced me was doing a search on Rootsweb on all family trees,
looking for someone in my own tree.  Because I had a non-standard location
in my grandmother's field (basically, it included street address
information), the Rootsweb search engine could not find her in my own tree
(although it found her in other people's trees).  

I know not all genealogy programs are set up to handle addresses the way
Legacy does.  And not all search engines will fail to recognize a city name
if it has other information before it.  But I figure the future of sharing
information across multiple software programs and platforms will head in the
direction that Legacy is going, simply because it DOES make good programming
sense.

Tom, concerning your non-conventional location entry method, my comment for
you (and anyone else who may be considering your method) is simply to
remember that other programs that may use this data may have a problem with
this format.  You may not think you'll be using any other programs, but you
may still wish to share your data with other family genealogists, and that
person may run into problems if they're using different software.

Keith, you are also revising location information just like I am.
Concerning your query about what to put in the "name field" for an event
location, I thought I'd put in my own 2 cents.  BE Kelly suggested perhaps
using a name for who lived there, perhaps with a qualifier that it was a
birth address.  

My own method is to have the "name" of the event address simply be the
street address, followed by a comma, and then the city name.  So "123 Main
Street, Anytown" would be the "name" of my event address.  The reason I
settled upon using this method of naming event addresses was because I tried
naming them after the individuals who lived there, and it ended up not being
a practical method for me.  I found that the same physical location was
shared by many different individuals, and sometimes even passed down through
generations.  So naming an address after a particular individual (or family
surname) didn't make a lot of sense.  By simply using the actual street
address and city as the name, it makes it quite easy when I have to re-use
the event address for another individual using that same event address.  

So these are my thoughts on location addresses, for what it's worth.

cheers,

Kirsty Haining
Seattle, WA
:-)


-----Original Message-----
Tom Montgomery wrote:
>>Me? I don't follow a lot of the conventional thinking for location entry 
and this is an example.  I would simply add the street data to the 
community and have it read:  "Middlesbrough (25 Willow Street), 
Yorkshire, England"  If this is a family home I would say that as well: 
"Middlesbrough (Bage family home at 25 Willow Street), Yorkshire, 
England". I like to do it this way as it is "in your face" when working 
on the family and marriage  screen(s). Will also use event entry 
occasionally but only when it gets rather complicated and could be 
confusing. Has never created a problem for me and looks just fine in 
reports.<<


BE Kelly wrote:
>>1. The Name field would be for the name of the resident or 
institution just like a mailing address. Alternatively you could 
use the name of the individual and a post name qualifier like 
birth, death, christening etc for the various addresses. If the 
person was born, christened or died in an institution the name of 
the institution could be used because several people in the same 
town could be born and/or died at the local hospital, christened 
in the parish church etc. Same for burial the name of the 
cemetery could be the name part of the address.<<

Keith Bage wrote:

> I am revisiting my location address dilemma. I am really struggling with
> this.
> 
> I understand that I enter my location address like this "Middlesbrough,
> Yorkshire, England"
> 
> BUT, for my birth I'd like to enter "25 Willow Street" presumably in the
> event address.
> 
> My questions are
> 
> 1. In this case what goes in the name fields? If I leave this blank the
list
> shows n/a. In such a case (which most of mine are) how do I find the
address
> again as everything in the location list is named n/a.
> 



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