A. Bulk contributors How is "bulk contributions" in 1) 1. defined? This could lead to problems when there are hundreds of bulk contributors!
My proposal: Only attribution to OSM. Bulk contributors can be on the OSM web page somewhere. B. Availability of derived dataset If I understand 1) 2.ff correctly it means I have to provide the Mapnik PostGIS database ("derived dataset") for a Mapnik map that I print out ("end-user experience") if I have added a single points somewhere. And I have to do this basically forever, as the printout could last for centuries. Even if the "at least the lifetime" wasn't there, this clause would preclude many many uses, as it is just too cumbersome to keep this "derived dataset" and it would open up many possible frivolous lawsuits because people can sue anybody who's "derived dataset" is not available (any more). A typical usecase would be a nice map somebody produced, where he deleted some data, moved other things around etc. to make the map look nice. I have added some use cases to the web page around this. Note that it doesn't say that you have to give out the source to the software you created the experience with. So the derived database could be encrypted and your software could decrypt it. Nobody else could use the database. What is the use for all this? And it gets worse: The language in 2) is very convoluted, but what I read there is that if you add your own data the whole thing in 1) doesn't apply. How can this make any sense? The whole brief seems to revolve around this "derived dataset" stuff which I don't fully understand (and I suspect other don't either) and can't see how this can be sensibly integrated into a working whole. It seems it is modelled ofter the source code/binary distinction of Open Source licenses. This seems to make a lot of sense, but the translation into the data world is not thought through enough. C. Use cases The use cases seem much too few for me. I have added a few, but we need a lot more, and a lot more diverse ones, before we can derive anything from it. The whole world is not just slippy maps and printed maps. -- Jochen Topf [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.remote.org/jochen/ +49-721-388298 _______________________________________________ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk