On 12 Jan 2009, at 14:52, Rob Myers wrote: > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Peter Miller <peter.mil...@itoworld.com > > wrote: > >> There does however appear to be something in the UK about 'fair >> dealing'. >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_dealing#Fair_dealing_in_the_United_Kingdom >> >> It seems a possible justification, but it may be a bit weak. > > Fair Dealing is a list of specific, quantified exceptions to > copyright. It won't cover this unfortunately (IANAL, TINLA).
Shame > > >>> Under American law, whatever you can get away with in court. >>> >> So what if someone in the US adds some data from a UN OCHA map to a >> global CCBYSA project! > > I forget what happens when you "export" it. I wish we were able to retain a lawyer for the foundation who could a) say 'I am a lawyer and I am your lawyer' and b) here is an answer to your question! > > >>> There can be no certainty unfortunately. >>> >> So what about a map from UNOCHA that makes no claim of copyright? > > Everything produced in a country that's a signatory to the Berne > convention (and that's most countries) is *automatically* copyrighted, > so UNOCHA don't need to claim copyright. I am surprised at that. I thought the (c) line on a document was important. > > >> We are asking for permission in parallel, however we are not hopeful >> about getting a quick response. > > Yes I can imagine that the UN won't move that fast. And I do > appreciate that this is an urgent issue that needs a fast and good > response to. > > Is it worth creating a quarantined/sandboxed/forked version of OSM for > use specifically to track the conflict? Data from it could be rolled > into the main map as it is "cleared". Nice idea. We have talked about it, but there was not enough time. Regards, Peter > > >> Oh, so possibly we claim fair use and/or database directive whichever >> is applicable! I do get the message that we should generally not use >> this approach. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Peter >> >> >>> - Rob. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> legal-talk mailing list >>> legal-talk@openstreetmap.org >>> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> legal-talk mailing list >> legal-talk@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk >> > > _______________________________________________ > legal-talk mailing list > legal-talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk _______________________________________________ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
