Actually I think the duck test http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_test is the
simplest way of approaching this problem.  If someone treats something as a
database then its a database.  Otherwise its a produced work.

They can call it whatever they like when the publish it.  The duck test
kicks in when someone uses it.

80n

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Frederik Ramm <frede...@remote.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Mike Collinson wrote:
> > "If it was intended for the extraction of the original data, then it
> > is a database and not a Produced Work. Otherwise it is a Produced
> > Work.
> >
> > We can clearly define things that are USUALLY Produced Works: .PNG,
> > JPG, .PDF, SVG images and any raster image; a map in a physically
> > printed work.
> >
> > Database dumps are usually not Produced Works, e.g a Planet dump."
>
> I think it was 80n who, in an older discussion about this, pointed out
> that it may not be helpful to focus on the *intent* of someone doing
> something. Someone might make an SVG file that contains the full
> original OSM data, but without the intent of extracting data, and
> someone else then uses that as a database. But I guess we don't need to
> get all upset about this because if a database is made from the Produced
> Work then ODbL again applies through the reverse engineering clause...
>
> Bye
> Frederik
>
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