Eric It is your content and your copyright. If you believe that Google or anyone else is infringing your copyright then it is your right to take up this issue with them directly.
Most infringments are accidental and if you approach the infringer in a helpful and sympathetic way then they will usually react swiftly and be very apologetic. There was a very recent case with Waze which was dealt with very promptly and to everyone's satisfaction: http://www.waze.com/blog/thanks-and-huge-apology-to-the-openstreetmap-community/ In the first instance it is often better to deal with these things off-list rather than naming the possible offender in public. OSMF's role is to provide support to contributors, and you may find that they can help you deal with the issue. The Data Working Group is the team that deals with this kind of thing: http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Working_Groups#Data_Working_Group They are well connected and can probably help you contact the correct people within Google. I think we'd all love Google to use OSM content and they are welcome to do so as long they provide the correct attribution. This is probably the right spirit in which to approach them initially. 80n On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Eric Jarvies <e...@csl.com.mx> wrote: > Perhaps someone who knows can answer my original question... does Google > MapMaker use(according to the OSM license) OSM data? If not, then perhaps > the person/people whom typically deal with these matters can communicate > with me accordingly, so I may provide information and explain the situation > in detail, so it may be addressed pragmatically, either validating or > invalidating it prior to the entire list being pointed to(alerted of) the > suspected problem. > > I say this because I do not have the -OSM- experience that is necessary to > validate what I suspect, as it relates to changesets, and being able to go > back a few versions and render the specific version in question, so it may > be compared with what is being used over at Google MapMaker. I am 99.9% > certain that the coastline that is being displayed over there on Google > MapMaker is in fact one in the same as one of my screwed-up iterations, > which has subsequently been changed and hopefully repaired(but not yet > rendered by OSM... tick tock tick tock). The very nature of the way I > changed/edited the coastline was deliberately inaccurate and very unique, > meaning it did not follow the real coastline, because at the time I was > still trying to hunt down a problem, a problem that I later discovered did > not really exist(I just needed to wait days/weeks for OSM to render the > coastline), and so I arranged the coastline in a very deliberate way so that > I would see the change when it rendered, as I was trying to substantiate if > my changes were actually occurring/working or not. > > Thus, anyone who is capable of going back to a previous version in this > particular way/changeset and rendering it, will be able to render the exact > same coastline that is being displayed over at Google MapMaker. > > Is this how this type of issue is normally dealt with? > > Eric > > > > On Sep 7, 2010, at 8:00 AM, Emilie Laffray wrote: > > > > On 7 September 2010 14:51, Eric Jarvies <e...@csl.com.mx> wrote: > >> Grant, >> >> Yes, I can point to an example... but prior to bringing attention to the >> matter/area, I would instead prefer to monitor it and see what else appears. >> The coastline, akaik, is not editable by users/contributors, which is why I >> asked if Google is now using OSM data. >> >> > I think that even an example would be nice, so more people can have a look > at what is happening. It would be best if we realized what is going on > sooner rather than later. > > Emilie Laffray > _______________________________________________ > legal-talk mailing list > legal-talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk > > > > _______________________________________________ > legal-talk mailing list > legal-talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk > >
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