Simone, you are flogging a really dead horse (which has been discussed many many many times before).
- the licence of the GADM dataset is incompatible with OSM - in dire circumstances and with a very large effort, as Paul has pointed out, three and a half years ago I managed to get hold of the responsible person with GADM and get explicit permission for a handful of datasets that had been imported in violation of the import guidelines and in principle should have been deleted - the situation is documented here http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#GADM_.28Global_Administrative_Areas.29 - AFAIK I'm the last person that managed to get hold of the GADM people and I don't see anybody volunteering to try again - people will argue all day long about legal points of any kind Simon Am 25.08.2015 um 12:02 schrieb Simone Aliprandi: > Thanks for your answer, Paul. > Some further comments below. > >> GADM is still under a non-commercial license. I don't know who said they >> were going to investigate, so you'd have to ask them, but I doubt >> anything came of it. Independently of that, we got permission for some >> datasets from GADM after the fact of a bad import, but this does not >> mean we can import anything new. > Which are these datasets? Are they relevant or minor datasets? > >>> Another interesting issue is that Naturalearthdata.com >>> (http://www.naturalearthdata.com/) includes the GADM dataset as a >>> source of data (see >>> http://www.naturalearthdata.com/downloads/10m-cultural-vectors/10m-admin-1-states-provinces/). >>> But Naturalearthdata.com release ALL ITS DATA as public domain. So... >>> something is missing in the workflow. Any ideas/suggestions? >> I don't see anything that says the admin 1 theme is derived from GADM. I >> can see it listed in resources, but that's not a list of sources. > Ok, I understand your point of view. > I am not sure what they mean with "resources". Reading the whole page, > it seems like the mean "sources"... but who knows. > > Here you can find a discussion about the GADM/NaturalEarthj licensins > issues: > http://www.naturalearthdata.com/forums/topic/licensing-naturalearth-pd-vs-gadm-license/ > Someone supports the theory that the administrative boundaries are > FACTS (see also the Feist Case: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feist_Publications,_Inc.,_v._Rural_Telephone_Service_Co) > and then in the public domain by default. > > Thanks. Bye, Simone > -- > Simone Aliprandi - http://www.aliprandi.org | http://www.array.eu > > > 2015-08-21 16:41 GMT+02:00 Simone Aliprandi <simone.alipra...@gmail.com>: >> I found an interesting dataset commonly called Berkely GADM >> (http://www.gadm.org) and containing containing global administrative >> areas. >> It has a very pour and short license (or a "wannabe-license") that says: >> - - - - - - >> This dataset is freely available for academic and other non-commercial >> use. Redistribution, or commercial use, is not allowed without prior >> permission. >> - - - - - - >> It is really too vague. But it is quite clear that the "non >> commercial" restriction makes this dataset not usefull for OSM. >> In the http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Potential_Datasources page >> of the OSM wiki I found a comment posted in 2009 that says: >> - - - - - - >> I'll investigate the part containing global administrative areas (but >> called GADM). It seems to be very useful, because administrative >> boundaries are missing for large parts of the world. One table in the >> geodatabase (MS Access) contains information on copyright for every >> country. I'll try to contact one of the persons at Berkeley, and ask >> if they agree to lift the NC restriction for OSM. >> - - - - - - >> Do you know if any news have come in these six years? Do you know if >> OSM received a sort of "direct permission" to include those data in >> the OSM database? >> >> Another interesting issue is that Naturalearthdata.com >> (http://www.naturalearthdata.com/) includes the GADM dataset as a >> source of data (see >> http://www.naturalearthdata.com/downloads/10m-cultural-vectors/10m-admin-1-states-provinces/). >> But Naturalearthdata.com release ALL ITS DATA as public domain. So... >> something is missing in the workflow. Any ideas/suggestions? >> >> Thanks very much. Simone >> >> -- >> Simone Aliprandi - http://www.aliprandi.org | http://www.array.eu > _______________________________________________ > legal-talk mailing list > legal-talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
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