As a general concern, yes, having nailed down how we attribute on the website is a bit of a pain and from a practical view will require that we provide the links indefinitely. And yes references to the ODbL and/or a specific version of it (including importing ODbL data) in an agreement could potentially cause issues, and could require going back to the data provider, or removing it, and we don't do that in the suggested text for aerial imagery providers (because essentially we are asking them to confirm that tracing does not create a derivative, so our licence is not really relevant).
In the templates for CC BY licensed datasets we do point out that the ODbL 1.0 requires open access or parallel distribution, but I wouldn't feel uncomfortable leaving these as is with any licence change that maintains such properties (and moving to a licence that doesn't would seem to be rather unlikely). I suppose you could strike "with the understanding that the Open Database License 1.0 requires open access or parallel distribution of OpenStreetMap data" however that might be a very hard sell. Note that we have a similar situation with that the CTs only limit the licences we can change to "open" ones, in practical terms however we wouldn't be able to change to one that doesn't provide attribution. Simon Am 07.04.2017 um 15:47 schrieb Blake Girardot HOT/OSM: > Hi Simon, Kathleen, all, > > Is there any concern that the specific exemptions for cc-by 4 and some > extent 2/3, which specifically mention the attribution method and URL, > license and version number, will cause an issue should the means of > OSM attribution or the license change (even a version number bump) in > the future? > > I fear that as written, any changes to any of the above would make > these exemptions non-valid anymore and data contributed under them > could potentially be candidates for removal. > > The generic waiver seems better. > > It is not clear to me why there are different versions either if the > generic waiver applies to the same cc-* licenses as the two version > specific references. > > Cheers > Blake > > > > On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 9:03 PM, Simon Poole <si...@poole.ch> wrote: >> Sorry this took so long, I've added suggested wording here >> https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Waiver_and_Permission_Templates >> >> Thanks again to Kathleen Lu for drafting this. >> >> Simon >> >> >> Am 23.01.2017 um 23:47 schrieb Simon Poole: >> >> The LWG has 3 US based legal professionals on it, no need for me to >> climb out on a limb :-). I'll ask for an opinion internally and get back >> to you. >> >> Simon >> >> >> Am 23.01.2017 um 23:23 schrieb Blake Girardot HOT/OSM: >> >> On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 10:37 PM, Simon Poole <si...@poole.ch> wrote: >> >> Blake where is the imagery provider in question based? >> >> United States >> >> Cheers >> blake >> >> >> Simon >> >> >> Am 23.01.2017 um 22:01 schrieb Blake Girardot HOT/OSM: >> >> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 1:54 PM, Simon Poole <si...@poole.ch> wrote: >> >> In any case, getting permission to distribute on ODbL terms only would >> seem to be suboptimal and endangers any contributions based on so >> licensed material as any license change, even in name only, would cause >> issues that require going back to the licensor. >> >> Simon, can you give an example of language you think would be best for this? >> >> Something like: >> >> "Specific permission is granted to use this imagery for digitizing >> data into OpenStreetMap and the resulting OpenStreetMap data to be be >> released under the OSM project's license of choice." >> >> Is that what you have in mind? >> >> Cheers, >> Blake >> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------- >> Blake Girardot >> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team, TM3 Project Manager >> skype: jblakegirardot >> HOT Core Team Contact: i...@hotosm.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> legal-talk mailing list >> legal-talk@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk >> >> _______________________________________________ >> legal-talk mailing list >> legal-talk@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> legal-talk mailing list >> legal-talk@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> legal-talk mailing list >> legal-talk@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk >> > >
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