Thanks, that's helpful.

Pam

On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 10:25 PM Richard Fontana <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 01:46:29AM +0000, Pamela Chestek wrote:
> > On the basis that it is a breach of the further restrictions of Section 6
> > of the GPLv2?
>
> Well properly speaking GPL incompatibility should be grounded in the
> 'no further restrictions' clause. "Orthodox GPL (in)compatibility" is
> actually a sort of semi-private semi-joke that goes back to
> discussions I had in 2007 with Bradley Kuhn. But actually it might not
> really apply in this case. I'm not sure because "orthodox"
> compatibility theory was never really well defined.
>
> The reason to treat the Facebook license (including patent terms) as
> GPL-incompatible is for consistency with the 'precedent' of the Apache
> License 2.0 being regarded as GPLv2-incompatible by the FSF where the
> patent termination clause by itself was assumed (and largely continues
> to be assumed) to be a basis for GPL-incompatibility. It is possible
> to conclude that the Apache License 2.0 is GPLv2-incompatible without
> addressing patent termination, however, because the upstream
> indemnification clause provides an independent (and I think fairly
> reasonable) basis for the same conclusion. I happen to think that the
> view that the patent termination clause of the Apache License 2.0 is a
> "further restriction" wrt GPLv2 is either nonsensical or else can only
> be understood on political-historical grounds.
>
> The FSF view on the Apache License is IMO logically inconsistent with
> other FSF precedent, as shown by the conclusions that CC0 and the
> Clear BSD license (both of which assert that no patent license is
> granted at all) are GPL compatible.
>
>
> Richard
>
>
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 8:51 PM Richard Fontana <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 12:58:40AM +0200, Haďkel wrote:
> > > > It appears that since April, 2015, Facebook updated their open source
> > > > patent grant.
> > > >
> > >
> https://code.facebook.com/posts/1639473982937255/updating-our-open-source-patent-grant/
> > > >
> > > > Some companies like Google decided to ban Facebook software from
> their
> > > > toolbox since.
> > > > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9271331
> > > >
> > > > The actual conditions added to all Facebook projects:
> > > > https://github.com/facebook/osquery/blob/master/PATENTS
> > > >
> > > > Potentially, it could mean that no Facebook open source projects can
> > > > be shipped in Fedora including high-profile projects like
> > > > React.Native.
> > > >
> > > > The worse being that such javascript library are often bundled
> without
> > > > notice ...
> > >
> > > The Red Hat legal team looked at this quite recently. FWIW we don't
> > > have an objection to code covered by these terms. I don't believe
> > > there is a Fedora-based policy reason for objecting to these terms,
> > > since even with the patent terms the license is a free software
> > > license.
> > >
> > > (It may be noted that the combination of the BSD license and the
> > > Facebook patent terms is GPL-incompatible at least under orthodox GPL
> > > compatibility analysis.)
> > >
> > > Richard
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