So Richard does that put you in the camp that says the installation information 
requirement also exists in GPLv2?
That's one area where I could see v2 & v3 having different enforcement options.

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> On Apr 18, 2014, at 1:36 PM, "Richard Fontana" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 10:18:48PM +0200, Marc Dietrich wrote:
>> Am Mittwoch 16 April 2014, 19:08:18 schrieb Bradley M. Kuhn:
> 
>>> I'm sorry that this thread has been so distracting on this issue.  The goal
>>> of the GPL is to give certain freedoms to end-users, indeed.  However, the
>>> primary legal mechanism it uses underneath is copyright, and as such the
>>> most traditional way and more or less the only successful way so far the
>>> license has been enforced has been through copyright holders acting on
>>> their rights. Take a look at GPLv2 Section 4 for the central provision on
>>> how this works. You also might want to read the book I wrote much of it and
>>> am the primary editor of:
>>> http://www.ebb.org/bkuhn/articles/comprehensive-gpl-guide.pdf
>> 
>> I'm sorry that I'm likely not motivated enough to read through all this. But 
>> maybe just a small question you may have an answer to (sorry, I'm again too 
>> lazy to google it myself). Does the GPLv3 helps with with problem?
> 
> You mean does GPLv3 address the issue I believe you are raising, which
> is the presumed reservation of an enforcement remedy for a GPLv2
> violation in the copyright holder? No, it doesn't. The interpretation
> of GPLv2 and GPLv3 should be in harmony in this respect. Thus if
> there's some theory under which one could argue that a downstream
> licensee has a legal remedy against a GPL-violating distributor, it
> should apply equally to GPLv2 and GPLv3. If there's some theory why
> this should *not* be possible, it should apply equally to GPLv2 and
> GPLv3. 
> 
> Also, don't misunderstand me -- this is not *inherent* to the GPL as
> some sort of abstract thing. I can envision various ways in which a
> hypothetical GNU GPLv4 could be drafted to make weak or strong
> attempts to ensure that downstream users have legal remedies to
> enforce the source code requirements of the GPL. These might come at a
> cost which might be seen as undesirable. But that's for the FSF of the
> future to decide.
> 
> 
> - Richard
> 
> 

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