I wrote:
> > I think most people on this list would be surprised to learn and will
> > probably doubt me when I say there is a not-really-coordinated, but
> > nearly universal, effort by many "Linux"-related companies, working very
> > hard to squelch anyone who attempts to enforce the GPL, and doubly so
> > against anyone who coordinates many people together to enforce GPL (like
> > I do).

Ralph Corderoy wrote:
>
> I'm not surprised.  One UK manufacturer I chased obtained Linux from a
> well-known supplier of embedded Linux.  When I pointed out to the,
> genuinely surprised, manufacturer their obligations they went upstream
...
> Finally, the manufacturer shipped the wrong source on an expensive CD.
> Then altered the bootloader on newer shipped units to Tivoise it.
...
> The embedded Linux supplier did a poor job IMO;

I agree and see directly stories like you described happen all the time; but,
it wasn't what I was talking about.  I'm talking about *clueful* companies,
many of whom happily comply themselves, who also work hard to squelch
activity of GPL enforcement because they want it to go away.

   -- bkuhn

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