Jason, there is a discussion list for BlueJ perhaps someone there will have
an answer for you.
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Today's Topics:
1. RE: Slow download times (Tjeerd Verhagen)
2. Re: Slow download times (Matthias Paul Scholz)
3. Re: RE: Slow download times (Matthias Paul Scholz)
4. Re: Slow download times (Matthias Paul Scholz)
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Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 09:04:46 +0100 (CET)
From: "Tjeerd Verhagen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Lejos-discussion] RE: Slow download times
Hi,
sorry but I didn't know anything about BlueJ, so I needed some Google sea=
rches to find out.
For those who have the same lake of information, here are some links of i=
nterest:
BlueJ is an integrated Java environment specifically designed for introdu=
ctory teaching.
http://www.bluej.org/
User Guide BlueJ MindstormsTool
http://ddi.uni-paderborn.de/mindstormstools/bjmt/user_guide_en.html
Tjeerd
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:58:42 +0100
From: Matthias Paul Scholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Jason Q <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Lejos-discussion] Slow download times
Hallo Jason,
The actual time needed for downloading will most likely depend on the
size of your program, in particular of the number of leJOS classes your
using (when running on leJOS 2.1.0 - the download time may prove to be
considerably shorter when using the actual cvs cut of leJOS where unused
class operations are omitted from the downloaded image).
However, I have no notion of eventual overhead of the BlueJ facilities
you mentioned - a good benchmark may be to download your program in a
"straight manner" (calling lejosdl directly - cf. the tutorial) and
compare it to the time you are facing with BlueJ.
Regards,
Matthias
Jason Q wrote:
> I use the BlueJ plugin to compile and download programs to my RCX.
> I've noticed that it takes a long time (close to a minute) just to
> download the program. Is this time duration standard? Or is it
> because I'm using the BlueJ plugin that it's slow? If so, does anyone
> know of any faster compilers/downloaders I could use?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jason
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:37:10 +0100
From: Matthias Paul Scholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Tjeerd Verhagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Lejos-discussion] RE: Slow download times
Hm..seems to be one of the first IDEs that allows for modelling for RCX
programs, though with a very low levelled modelling style (just classes,
no DSL for the leJOS domain (?)).
Would be interesting to see if a comparable or even better result might
be obtained with IBM's Eclipse based RSM in connection with the LDT
plugin.
Regards,
Matthias
Tjeerd Verhagen wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> sorry but I didn't know anything about BlueJ, so I needed some Google
searches to find out.
> For those who have the same lake of information, here are some links of
interest:
>
> BlueJ is an integrated Java environment specifically designed for
introductory teaching.
> http://www.bluej.org/
>
> User Guide BlueJ MindstormsTool
> http://ddi.uni-paderborn.de/mindstormstools/bjmt/user_guide_en.html
>
>
> Tjeerd
>
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:52:17 +0100
From: Matthias Paul Scholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Jason Q <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [Lejos-discussion] Slow download times
My pleasure, Jason.
Did you happen to try the actual LDT (leJOS) plugin with Eclipse 3 also?
Would be interesting to have a comparison with the download times you
are facing with the (almost) actual cvs state of the download tools
(that the plugin uses).
Would be nice also to get your opinion regarding the advantages and
drawbacks in developing for leJOS with the Eclipse plugin compared to
doing so with the BlueJ plugin.
Regards,
Matthias
Jason Q wrote:
> Thanks for the reply Matthias. I tried downloading the program from
> the command shell, and it went at the same speed, so I guess I'm stuck
> with this download speed. Well now I know that it wasn't BlueJ.
>
> -Jason
>
> On 12/16/05, Matthias Paul Scholz
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Hallo Jason,
>>
>>The actual time needed for downloading will most likely depend on the
>>size of your program, in particular of the number of leJOS classes your
>>using (when running on leJOS 2.1.0 - the download time may prove to be
>>considerably shorter when using the actual cvs cut of leJOS where unused
>>class operations are omitted from the downloaded image).
>>
>>However, I have no notion of eventual overhead of the BlueJ facilities
>> you mentioned - a good benchmark may be to download your program in a
>>"straight manner" (calling lejosdl directly - cf. the tutorial) and
>>compare it to the time you are facing with BlueJ.
>>
>>Regards,
>> Matthias
>>
>>Jason Q wrote:
>>
>>>I use the BlueJ plugin to compile and download programs to my RCX.
>>>I've noticed that it takes a long time (close to a minute) just to
>>>download the program. Is this time duration standard? Or is it
>>>because I'm using the BlueJ plugin that it's slow? If so, does anyone
>>>know of any faster compilers/downloaders I could use?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Jason
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
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