OK, I'm listening.

What is then the exact short version definition of fascism ?

I admit that I use the term in a non-marxist meaning, i.e.
about the mentality deriving from an extremely suppressed
and humiliated childhood, cf. Hitler, etc.

Ole



Owen Jones wrote:

> Reply to secr (MG!), at [EMAIL PROTECTED], who wrote on the 19/12/2000
> 5:23:
>
> > I think the explanation might be that it's felt hopeless to do anything
> > about such ruthless fascist regime.
>
>  The Turkish regime is certainly reactionary, yes. But by any real Marxist
> definition, it is not fascist (has a movement representing a ruined
> petty-bourgeoisie and all those classes above the proletariat seized power
> and usurped all elements of working class democracy in society, are we
> looking at the rule of finance capital, etc...?) This is using "fascist" as
> a moralistic characterisation rather than a scientific term. We have not
> really seen fascism in the post-1945 epoch.
>
>  No matter how brutal the terror of a reactionary regime is, one should not
> simply use fascist as a handy swearword or propaganda term. This only serves
> to prevent us from making an accurate class analysis of that regime; in
> other words, it deceives, and that can be a dangerous thing. Not only that,
> it strips "fascism" of its scientific meaning and renders it useless. It is
> a term which should be used only after very careful analysis.
>
>  I realise a far-Right, extreme-nationalist party is a member of the Turkish
> regime; however this is not fascist per se, no matter how reactionary it
> genuinely is. Potentially it can serve as a core for a future fascist
> movement, but the conditions for fascism are not present in Turkey in the
> year 2000. Indeed a similar party, the Radical Party of Votislav Sesijl, was
> part of the old Serbian coalition, but that did not make the old Belgrade
> regime fascist in character either. Likewise, I would certainly not describe
> the Freedom Party of Haider in Austria as fascist either; a Rightwing
> bourgeois-nationalist party whose leadership is not really to the Right of
> the present British Conservative leadership of William Hague, to be honest.
>
>  Cheers
>
>         Owen
>
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