I see Leo as a platform, I think the 'Next Big Thing" can be that
what is built with Leo.

You wrote about computational power, I think more about the
increasing complexity that power is bringing.

We need tools to manage, monitor and explain an increasingly rich
(complex and daunting) information environment.

I picture a Leo file with documentation, a smart node which will open
a set of files on the filesystem, safely, without impinging on them.
Buttons and commands are tailored to the application, protocol, or service
this particular Leo file has been prepared for. This file does ONE thing
amazingly well. Another Leo file next to it is built to do one other thing
amazingly well. They each have different buttons, menus, commands,
@nosent nodes. Leo is used to create file-based toolchains / tutorials.
The ONE Leo file does exactly what it's author wants it to do and the
Leo file mirrors his understanding of a topic, collapsing much of the
complexity of configuration, dependencies, maintenance.

I can see this file becoming as standard component of any package
or distrubution, alongside configure and make.

Sort of a super-shell with hierarchal
data/file/executable/documentation content capability.
It will mirror the experience of the author, offering shortcuts,
hints, explanations
without anything extraneous.

I'm currently studying LDAP, SNMP, LVM, Samba, Zope's Buildout, and others,
I try to assemble the components which allow me to create
documentation and scripts as
I go, both for my own later use, and for the potential of helping
another along the
learning curve.

Required is:

1 brilliant hierarchy management
2 brilliant Python integration
3 brilliant non-intrusive path and file capability
4 dead simple, cascading configuration

1 and 2 stand alone in available tools, 3 frustrates me, 4 seems like
it won't happen.

The problem is, without all 4, I end up fighting with Leo instead of
creating with it,
and I return to working to combine scripts in a more traditional way,
but without
surprises or dead ends.

My $.02

Thanks,
Kent

I periodically attempt to use Leo as described, and put

On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Edward K. Ream <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It's something of a joke at my house when I say that Leo is almost
> finished.  I've been saying that for a long time.
>
> Nevertheless, Leo is, if fact, nearing completion.  Indeed, Leo's to-
> do list has been steadily decreasing for over a year.  Here is my
> present general schedule:
>
> QQQ
> May 5
> - 1-2 weeks: vim bindings.
>    Took 11 days, including new drawing code.
>
> May 16
> - 1 week: leo-as-a-package.
> - 1 week: bugs.
> - 1 week: flexible file format.
> - 2 weeks: integrate rope (& autocompleter)
> - 2 weeks: gtk gui.
>
> Updated total: 7 weeks.
> QQQ
>
> Note in particular that the "vim" (new-key) bindings was finished on
> schedule even though the new drawing scheme became a part of it.
>
> Sure, the 2-week projects could take longer, but it does look like
> everything will be finished this year.  And nothing else has a great
> deal of appeal. Yes, I'll continue to support Leo--probably for the
> rest of my life, but I don't see the support role taking more than a
> few hours a week.
>
> Furthermore, many others can contribute to Leo now...
>
> What this means is that I shall soon be looking for the "next big
> thing".  This is healthy and normal. I know from experience that this
> can be a stressful time--the old routines are not sufficient to occupy
> my days.  But that can't be helped.
>
> Edward
> >
>

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