My excitement about Leo has only increased since this post:
http://longrun.zwiki.org/LeoLog

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Ville M. Vainio<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Edward K. Ream <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Inspired by Terry's recent post, I'm wondering how many of you can
>> tell the story of what you were doing and thinking when you first
>> "got" what Leo was all about.  Such stories might help newbies, and
>> they will help me understand the pathways people take to understanding
>> Leo.
>
> My "story":
>
> - I bumped into leo 5 years back. This tutorial sparked my fascination:
>
> http://www.3dtree.com/ev/e/sbooks/leo/sbframetoc_ie.htm
>
> (yeah, they are not really up-to-date anymore. The best tutorial is
> probably the "Outlining" one, with Friends, Enemies and People that
> owe me money)
>
> I played around with it a bit, but found myself unable to use it for
> programming (the @root thing is not all that practical). Also, back
> then Leo was too slow for large projects (we've come a long way
> since). Still, a weird "charm" about the whole thing stuck to the back
> of my head.
>
> Here are some of my c.l.p postings from 2004:
>
> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2004-July/270849.html
> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2004-July/270910.html
>
> I guess I found myself not needing Leo that much back then - my job
> was boring at the time, and I didn't have all that much to keep track
> off.
>
> Later, a colleague introduced me to Freemind (and my job had got
> interesting enough to actually keep track of what i'm doing). I used
> that for a while to keep notes about my defect fixing work (with chat
> logs, tracebacks, interesting functions etc. associated with each
> defect).
>
> However, I soon hit the glass ceiling with Freemind - it just didn't
> scale for lots of text and complex graphs. It was more of an
> attractive toy, really. I then remembered Leo, and switched to using
> that. Leo was a much better fit for my needs.
>
> This was coupled with Edwards post to ipython mailing list:
>
> http://osdir.com/ml/python.ipython.devel/2005-07/msg00015.html
>
> This resulted in ILeo, which solved some of the woes of using %edit in
> IPython, and revealed a whole new avenue of thinking about interactive
> programming.
>
> I got seriously sucked into development of Leo itself when the Qt ui
> started happening. I had a very selfish motive for promoting the Qt ui
> stuff - I had started working on Linux at the time (on the maemo/Nokia
> N900 stuff I posted the link about), and the Tk ui was bad enough on
> Linux that I either had to reimplement a Leo-like program myself
> (possibly based on qleolite, branch still on LP), or wait for other
> GUI plugin to emerge. But here we are.
>
> --
> Ville M. Vainio
> http://tinyurl.com/vainio
>
> >
>

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