On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Terry Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 20:12:30 -0500
> Kent Tenney <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 6:19 AM, Edward K. Ream <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Kent Tenney <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> Howdy,
>> >>
>> >> Is there an easier way to get a node [UNL] than to iterate through 
>> >> parents?
>> >
>> > This discussion is amusing. Almost all such questions can be
>> > researched by doing a few searches.  Here, my first thought was be to
>> > discover how UNL's are already computed.  Searching for UNL (word
>> > search) I found the following:
>> >
>> > Plugins-->Commands & directives-->@file quickMove.py-->class
>> > quickMoveButton-->computeUNL
>> >
>> > This plugin isn't always enabled, so I looked in Leo's core:
>> >
>> > Code-->Gui base classes-->@file leoFrame.py-->class
>> > leoTree-->leoTree.select & helpers-->selectHelper
>> >
>> >    # what UNL.py used to do
>> >    c.frame.clearStatusLine()
>> >    c.frame.putStatusLine("-->".join(reversed(
>> >        [i.h for i in p.self_and_parents()])))
>>
>> This returns an incorrect UNL if there is a "-->" in the headline.
>> Are there compelling reasons not use standard notation for UNL?
>> leo://myleofile.leo/root node/child node/target
>>
>> slashes in headlines would need escaping, as --> does now.
>
> Hmm, --> are old, not sure where they came from.
>
> It seems to me that / in a headline is more likely than -->, although
> obviously both occur often enough to be problematic.  / more often than
> --> though.

I've never used either, more likely to need / than -->. As with file names, not
too onerous to consider special characters. Filenames make some chars
illegal, we wouldn't do that (would we?)

>
> Slashes are problematic because you can't easily tell where the file
> path ends and the node path starts.  You could test each component to
> find where the file is, i.e.
> it's /dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/file/node/node/node/node, as opposed to urls
> which are some.domain.name/path/path/path
>
> Hmm, probably
>
> protocol:some.domain.name:port/filepath/filepath/filepath#nodepath/nodepath/nodepath
>
> would be the most urlesque, '#' is the normal 'fragment' identifier.
> But that's basically what we have now, except the slashes instead of
> --> in the fragment part.

Doh! I didn't recognize where your use of "#" came from

maybe forget the leo:// part, an address could be standard using
file:///path/to/leo/file.leo#/root node/child node/Considering "/" as
a separator

I've been playing with combinations of urllib.quote, .quote_plus,
.quote_plus, .unquote_plus
but it's not clear how best to leverage them

>
> The most important thing is to make sure the needed escaping
> occurs.  I guess we could support both schemes, / escaped would be %2F,
> and --> could be --%3E or possibly -->, but I think --%3E makes more
> sense.

I don't think we should need both, if Leo settled on get_UNL "officially",
we work with that. Does Leo use UNLs beyond the status line?

Thanks,
Kent

>
> I'll try and fix the escaping, introducing / as an alternative (or
> replacement?) probably needs wider discussion.
>
> Cheers -Terry
>
>>
>> I like the orthogonality of slashes as separators.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Kent
>> >
>> > Had the helpful comment not been present, I could have found the code
>> > by looking for calls to putStatusLine.
>> >
>> > Edward
>> >
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