On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 2:08 AM, Matt Wilkie <[email protected]> wrote:

> form another thread:
>
>> This opens up *all* Leo commands to vim's dot command.  It's big.
>
>
Thanks for the tour :-)



> *But once the effort to learn it has been made, I know of no one who goes
> back.* -- from "Why, oh WHY, do those #?@! nutheads use 
> vi?<http://www.viemu.com/a-why-vi-vim.html>"
> [emphasis added]
>

The "Why, oh Why" post is, imo, the best intro to vim.


> It's my feeling that Leo will always be hard to grok, to find the *Aha!*which 
> engenders a willingness to stick around. This paragraph about vi/vim
> gives me heart, being hard is okay.
>
Well, I don't think the Leo Aha is all that hard to get, despite perhaps
being a bit difficult to describe.  Of course, my opinion is not quite
reliable on this subject ;-)

Still, I think three or four tutorials could make a big difference.  The
first tutorial, about clones and work flow, is *one* reason I would never
willingly program without Leo.

Another reason is that leoPy.leo contains at least 500,000 lines of code,
all easily accessible.  In particular, the rule (of thumb) that helper
methods should be children of the method that calls them instantly reveals
that programs are outlines in disguise.  Once you have a way of seeing that
fact *at all times*, one can never go back to the flat, myopic way of
seeing.  It's really that simple.

And then there is c, g, and p, including especially Leo's iterators and p.h
and p.b and p.u.  Really, this is **not** all that hard.

And finally, there is @others.  I created it within the first hour of
prototyping Leo in the MORE outliner.  It has remained unchanged all these
years because it is, fundamentally, a very simple idea.

In short, I have hopes that 3 or 4 screencasts will demonstrate that anyone
can use Leo.

Edward

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