>NP.  I am relying on you to test vim mode. I gave myself an early
>birthday present (I turn 65 tomorrow) and disabled vim mode.

:! echo "Happy Birthday Edward!" > /tmp/hb.txt
:   r /tmp/hb.txt <return>

(works in REAL vim) :P

On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Edward K. Ream <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 8:32 AM, Kent Tenney <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Are you trying to replicate vim operation or has there
>> been a 'fork' and bindings are vim-like?
>
> The former.
>
>> IE: do you keep vim open and check it's operation against Leo?
>
> Yes.
>
>> I see in current commit message:
>> Added :r <return>filename<return> ...
>>
>> this works as described, but being different than vim, it becomes
>> a confusing 3rd set of bindings to learn.
>
> I discussed this problem and its solution here this morning:
> Aha: vim mode is a great success, even when not enabled
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/leo-editor/_KvHWDWdhaM/b4epOlLLcKMJ
>
>> In vim it is spelled
>> : <optional whitespace> r  filename <return>
>
> The optional whitespace isn't going to happen: the name of the command
> is :r.  You could call this a limitation of the @g.command decorator.
> It could be fixed, by why bother?
>
>> in vim :r<return> pastes a copy of the current file at the cursor
>
> I didn't know that.  It will be easy to do once the solution referred
> to in this morning's post is in place.  See the P.P.S in that post.
>
>> There seems to be a world view difference: in vim, ':' enters
>> command mode, in vim-mode, the ':' seems attached to a
>> command, not sure how this plays out.
>
> I don't think it's a big deal.  In practice, :r will work fine. It's a
> tiny compromise necessitated by the fact that we are actually using
> Leo's minibuffer, and everything it offers, including typing
> completion for command names.  And soon, dired mode.
>
>> If differences can't be helped, that's ok, and won't be a
>> problem for Leo users learning vim through Leo's bindings.
>> It is a problem for fingers trained by vim usage.
>
> The extra return problem will be fixed, as described in this morning's post.
>
>> (you are being haunted by the ghost of 'I hope they complain') :=] )
>
> NP.  I am relying on you to test vim mode. I gave myself an early
> birthday present (I turn 65 tomorrow) and disabled vim mode.
> Hahahahahaha.  But as the post says, there are advantages to vim mode
> even when it is not enabled.  dired-like operation will be one of
> them: access to : commands will be another.
>
> EKR
>
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