Hello Ed and everybody, I'm writing inspired by Eds post "Wanted: students for the Leo Code Academy" of today, but I'm carrying this question with me since, well, February, when I started using Leo, again, after a pause of maybe ten years. And yes, I recognize that Leo helps me organize my thoughts and code and texts once in a while, but there seems to be a big gap between those who dig it and those who don't, and I seem to be on the don't-dig-side. Not the fact that it can be useful, but the fact that ut can be useful to extents that it has some fanatic fans. I tried using Leo for tasks that jumped at me, like, translating some code from Perl to Python. I did it by analyzing the (very poor) structure of that code in Leo, and it still took me a week; afterwards I realized I would have been better of, if I had just translated it to Python - command by command - , *without* understanding the structure, and *then* tried to force structure upon it; so decomposing and analyzing seems not be the right method for this kind of task. Now, again, another task: I'm analyzing some Python code, much better structured. Still, it's quite complex, the state-machine it contains has multiple rather unclear transitions and conditions of changing transitions... Leo helped me only so much, but just the implications of this and that changing value in the code at runtime... is just not yet clear to me. Trying to analyze seems to be less useful than adding log entries to see the runtime values. So, after seriously trying to use Leo for tasks that came along my way, and finding it nice, but not so useful that I'd say it's indespensable, may I ask: what are you guys using Leo for? I realize that writing code of the size and quality of Leo itself is a huge task, and would be hard without a good tool; but are there smaller, but also very useful things you can do with Leo, which would be much harder without it? (Yes, I have read the documentation; not I have not *studied* it). I'd appreciate examples which *show* me why Leo is great. I really want to love it, honestly. I *tried* to find it extremely useful ten years ago, when I stumbled upon it after reading about the greatness of outlines (articles from Steve Litt). Yet by now I have the impression that it's most useful in a greenfield environment, when you have control of structure, anyway. Being a contractor, hopping from project to project, I almost never do such development. Thoughts? Answers? I'd really appreciate them. Regards, Nenad
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