Thanks Ed - a better Leo is always a good thing! IH
On Tuesday, 5 March 2019 14:51:10 UTC, Israel Hands wrote: > > Please forgive the click bait title and Ed please forgive me presuming to > tell you how to spend your time! > > But thinking about how Leo can rule the world or even just a larger part > of it I feel very much depends on which bit of the world we want to rule. > > My son is a professional C coder on embedded systems but also has done > Python stuff - biggest gripe - the install of Python itself when dealing > with customers. He said 'we ended up lending the client a laptop as an > easier way to demo the software then getting them to the do a full install.' > > Moral - 90% of the world will never make it past the initial requirements. > But that is fine, it's a very big world. > > Then we have this wonderous toolbox which is Leo which can do magical > things. And clever people can use the wonderful tools in Leo to build > their very own magical things. And Ed can, does and probably should spend > time cultivating and curating and extending these magical features. > > But the masses (that is the masses of the 10%!) maybe like me - who are > not wizards, maybe can manage a small script - but probably not much more. > What we have is tasks we need to perform. Let me list some of mine > > > 1 Produce PDF documents using LaTex. > > 2 Organise my calendar and Todos > > 3 Do some archiving and processing of emails. > > 4 Have my contacts - neatly ordered and easily tagged and searched. > > 5 Use python to parse my friends clients lists exported from Sage. > > 6 Run Leo as a note taking app and info bucket on multiple computers > simultaneously and try and keep the files in sync. > > > Now such is the flexibility and power of Leo - it can do all these things, > pretty easily in most cases. Though 1Gig plus of email slows Leo > considerably, especially load and save. And keeping stuff in sync is a pain. > > When I have a problem, if I ask a specific question about say using LaTex > I will get a high quality answer here. One of Leo's other strengths is the > strength of this group. However understandably given the wondrous toolbox > and the abilities of the 'high level' users the real answer is 'go away > learn to be a better python coder and the scales will fall from your eyes > and the solution will appear.' And that is true and there's lots of help > along the way on that path, but I'm just never going to be good enough. > > And then I wonder, why are there not more collections of leo files with > explicit functionality (rather than implicit power) to deal with real world > problems. > > So what I want is a clever person to work over say Leo's TeX functionality > till it is killer (Rob might already have done a lot of the work) and then > distribute a Leo file that answers most of my small questions in one hit. > > I want someone to go over Leo's Org mode and do the same. > > And build a power contact manager. > > etc. etc. > > Now this is selfish I know and lazy too, I accept. But it is also for me a > reality and it would mean if I meet someone who wants a LaTex back end I > say - get Leo load this Leo file and away you go. Or you want > calendar/TODO/GTD app - get Leo load this file and away you go. > > Because at the moment I would say Leo is brilliant - I use it for LaTex - > I have some abbreviations that help and if you have a question ask it on > here and you will get some great pointers for a solution, maybe even the > solution itself but the truth is most people can't be arsed. They want > a simple solution. Not simplistic otherwise they wouldn't have got passed > the Python install barrier, but simple. I guess I want what you might call > Leo Apps. > > At the moment Leo is the answer to just about every question because of > its power and flexibility - I think it needs concrete applications of that > power in real world areas (maybe not my real world areas but someones real > world areas) in order for it to be recommended as a solution. > > Usual big UP to EKR and the helpful people here for their patience. And > finally I accept maybe Leo is to be a solution rather than an application - > there is no shame in that, far from it. It's just I have stood on the > shoulders of Leo giants and I can see the promised land..... I just can't > get there under my own steam. > > IH > > > > > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/leo-editor. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
