On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 7:08 AM gar <[email protected]> wrote:

Edward, but does Leo need these hard to implement features?
>

No. Leo could be said to be "perfect", just the way it is :-)

> What would Leo achieve when it get them?
>

vim and emacs users who want Leonine features while retaining features of
vim and emacs.

Don't you think that say improving usability is more preferable then
> another compatibility mode?
>

The picture is a way to *avoid* vim mode.  It attempts to get the best of
vim editing (in vim) with Leonine features.

> Learning curve of Leo is very very steep, it took me more than 2 weeks of
> reading and experimenting - and I am still cannot work fluently in it.
> Trying to customize UI is a severe pain.
>

Are you referring to Leo's themes?  In any case, this is a completely
separate issue.

> Plenty of documented features (like vim mode) do not work as described.
>

That's why I am considering removing vim mode.

Leo have too many features which become broken right in the next release.
>

I am not aware of any significant bugs in Leo 6.0.

Is there any reason to add another one?
>

All enhancements come with costs and benefits.  Imo, there could be
important benefits to better cooperation between Leo and vim or emacs.

*Summary*

Closer integration between Leo and external programs such as vim and emacs
might solve existing problems with a minimum of new code.  In any case, the
vim plugin needs work.

Edward

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