But may I suggest you to think about one more think?
Using Leo extensively for the last days I encountered a great
inconvenience: lack of commands for manipulating outlines from
whatever part of the Editor.

Say I am editing the body and suddenly got an idea which I want to add
as a prev sibling of the currently edited outline. But I have only
Ctrl-I and Ctrl-Ins options, so I have to create outline and then move
it.
Actually that is not a great problem, but when you're designing a
structure.... hmmm...

Another case. I decided to change the outline. Good, Ctrl-H. But it
behaves differently with double-click. Ctrl-H activates editing mode
for the outline but do not selects it while dblclk activates and
selects. But actually, I need both of them, and thx vim, I can
remember and simultaneously use 1000 keybinding.

My suggestion is to create sort of meta-key-binding-language for
outlines manipulations. Let it be something like Alt-H for activating
- and then you need to enter what command you actually want to
execute: select and edit, edit w/o selection, all in uppercase -
whatever.

Well guess that is possible to do via custom commands - but I haven't
read this chapter yet :-) So sorry if my suggestions sound silly.

2019-07-04 18:26 GMT+03:00, Edward K. Ream <[email protected]>:
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 8:15 AM gar <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> After several days w/o vim mode I understood the dao of leo.
>> There's actually no need in vim mode at all.
>>
>
> Thanks for this.  Your remarks are complementary to thoughts I've had for a
> long time.  Leo is a different, more complex environment than vim.  In
> particular, vim has only a "body" pane.  So Leo's vim mode needs commands
> to switch between environments.  But there are no free keystrokes. Vim uses
> them all.
>
> Anyway, I have just created #1235
> <https://github.com/leo-editor/leo-editor/issues/1235>, retire vim mode.
>
> Edward
>
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